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Old 12-11-2012, 03:24 PM   #11
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I think your flow probably has alot to do with the problem dead spot or low flow areas turn into detritus traps, especially sumps. This also collects substantially under and on rocks. Skimmer i hope?

Well then if you do not think feeding is the problem, the export is. Only two possibilities. Flow aids in export via skimming and filtation the remaining nitrates that collect should be able to be handled by water changes. The fact you are also running bio pellets and your nitrates are still that high says that there is a big underlying issue somewhere. What are your phosphates?

Phosphates seem fine, and we run a 180 vertex skimmer. We have upped the flow, and done more water changes, new test resultes will tell.
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Old 12-11-2012, 03:25 PM   #12
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Have you used another test kit or have your lfs checked it? Personal I don't feed any flake or pellet food to easy to overfeed and IMO helps buildup nutrients in water. With all your equipment and maintenance it seems strange.

Yes it does, but as said before we dont over feed and all leftovers are cleaned up by our crabs lol.
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Old 12-11-2012, 03:28 PM   #13
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what about the test kit, which one do you use.

As for test kits we have tried different types, but we are currenlty using, API Saltwater Master Test Kit along with the individual API test kits for phosphate, calcium, and some others.
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I found that api always tested high to me. I switched to salifert for a more accurate test, it tested much lower then the api did. I mean its not going to test yours way down but I bet there lower then the api test. Seems like your doing everything right, have you tried dosing vinegar.
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Well IME I've been using API myself and if you read the guide all the way through you will find in testing tips on page 14 is very surprising information. It explains in more detail but there is a little quirk about the API test kits. If you divide your results by 4.4, you will find that your Nitrates are actually 36.7ppm. It's not zero but it's better than 160 ppm. Hopefully that helps. Keep us posted.
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I found that api always tested high to me. I switched to salifert for a more accurate test, it tested much lower then the api did. I mean its not going to test yours way down but I bet there lower then the api test. Seems like your doing everything right, have you tried dosing vinegar.
I will look into getting the salifer bramd for a more acurate result. We have not tried doesing vinegar. But have heard of it.
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Well IME I've been using API myself and if you read the guide all the way through you will find in testing tips on page 14 is very surprising information. It explains in more detail but there is a little quirk about the API test kits. If you divide your results by 4.4, you will find that your Nitrates are actually 36.7ppm. It's not zero but it's better than 160 ppm. Hopefully that helps. Keep us posted.
That does help but im wondering which test u have the multi kit or the individual nitrate test. Because I have lost the mult kit booklet and looked over the individual instructions again and didnt see that. We found out our nitrate test in the multi kit was false so bought a indivitual nitrate test nd it showed about 40ppm. So that helped to lol
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I use the individual right now but I still have the booklet from my original sw kit.
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I will look into getting the salifer bramd for a more acurate result. We have not tried doesing vinegar. But have heard of it.
My nitrates were always high also for some reason around 80 with the vinegar they are now 0
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I had heard of needing to divide api nitrate results by 4.4 also. I used to use API to test for nitrates, and they were always 20-40, then I would cross check the same water with my Red Sea kit and it would be 5-10. Did this on multiple occasions. So it does seem as though the API results do need to be divided by 4. So I stopped using the API, and only use Red Sea now.
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