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Old 12-29-2011, 12:00 PM   #11
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I was reading an article that I found interesting Fish Stress and Disease Overview Article from FishVet, Inc. it deals with tank size but a lot of other factors.
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I think a lot of the minimum sizes on tanks are just BS ..Take LA for example..A few years ago they had large angels being listed as a minimum of 180 gallons,,now as of 6 months or so ago almost all are listed 250...I personally think its their way of countering the fact that a lot of people don't have 250 + tanks and when delicate angels kept dieing in 180 systems they needed to up the size..Not because they need it ,but because they had to keep refunding...I personally think "common sense" HAS to come into play ...Big fish and fish meant to grow big need big tanks
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Old 12-29-2011, 12:08 PM   #13
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I can easily drive a mini and survive a long ride, but my overall happiness is increased if I was in an SUV with space to move around and do more things. In the SUV, I'm happier, in a better mood, and healthier because of my mood directly related to the space I have.

A fish not happy is a potential for illness.

Maybe my analogy doesn't work for some, but I hope you can see my point.
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Old 12-29-2011, 12:23 PM   #14
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I can see what your getting at Ray, but let me ask you this. Since your a full grown human, an SUV is a perfect fit for you, wouldn't it be overkill for a 2 year old? They would be happy, for sure, but they'd also be happy in a mini. That's what I was trying to come to understand. It's all about comfortable size and end game dynamics. So in the fish world, it's buying the SUV for the 2 year old because eventually he/she will need it.
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I can see what your getting at Ray, but let me ask you this. Since your a full grown human, an SUV is a perfect fit for you, wouldn't it be overkill for a 2 year old? They would be happy, for sure, but they'd also be happy in a mini. That's what I was trying to come to understand. It's all about comfortable size and end game dynamics. So in the fish world, it's buying the SUV for the 2 year old because eventually he/she will need it.
Ah, but what happens when the 2 year old grows up and is still able to hide under the seat when you try to remove it from the mini?

I like this analogy although the one I like better, that i've often used with folks cramming aggressive fishes into a small tank is this:
Imagine living in an airplane bathroom. Food is occasionally lobbed in to you, but you can't leave that bathroom. Every now and again the flusher breaks. Now add a very angry leprechaun into the mix (yes, I refer to damsels as angry leprechauns, just go with it). Will you survive? Well...most likely...but are you going to be happy about it? Probably not In theory, you have everything that you need to survive. Food, waste removal, and companionship (albeit undesirable companionship). Apply that to your fish.
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Chuck, it's just that every day as I grow, I'm realizing that the small space is making me feel weird. I really don't know why. I just know that I have not much room to move and exercise my every growing 2 year old body. And I am growing, believe me! The more I can move, the more physical and mental health I have.
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Chuck, it's just that every day as I grow, I'm realizing that the small space is making me feel weird. I really don't know why. I just know that I have not much room to move and exercise my every growing 2 year old body. And I am growing, believe me! The more I can move, the more physical and mental health I have.
Excellent explanation. I think what we can conclude then (not from any scientific info, but from common sense point of view) is that the reason for the tank specs is what the fish will need if you were to keep them for the entire term of their life. The Tang in my first example will eventually need the 6ft tank so may as well start off with it.

For the people that don't start off with the correct size tank for an adult, they need to make sure they are willing to upgrade to the larger size in the future to enable the fish to live a long and healthy life.
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