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Old 05-20-2003, 11:18 AM   #1
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Symbiotic Relationship

I know clowns and anenomes live symbiotically, a mutally beneficial relationship. I was wondering a) is this true with all clowns and all anenomes or only certain types and b)how long before the clowns will start poking their heads around the anenome and doing their thing?

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Old 05-20-2003, 12:18 PM   #2
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I believe there are specific clowns that take to specific anemones. Like Ocellaris don't neccesarily take to anemones, but Perculas will almost always... I have 2 Percs and a bubble tip Entacmaea quadricolor ... I put them in the main tank yesterday...and already 1 is entranced bu the anemone... They other, seems to not care less. I was told that this could take months...but...It happened in less than 24 hours for me... that's probably rare, but, I'm not complaining.
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Only certain anemones will host clownfish at all and then as Prettyfishies said, certain clowns host with certain anemones. The anemone you have is Condylactus gigantea, it is not a host anemone and has been known to sting and kill some clown fish. I have witnessed some clowns hosting in non-host anemones. For a Condy I would recommend a Clarkii clown, they are anemone hussies and will take up with just about anything.
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Little tomato clown at the eyecare center is trying to host a torch coral. Sorry, not sure the proper name for the coral, but both of them seem happy with the arrangement. I'll try to get a pic of it later. Anyone have any experience with this type of thing?
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So what are some good matches that people have in their tanks now? And do you have any pictures?
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Anyone have any experience with this type of thing?
When I first started reefing I got 2 Pink Skunk Clowns as my first fish. They hosted in my LT plate (until they killed it)...


After it passed, they moved to my toadstool....


Once I got my Elegance coral though...they found a permanant home
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What great pictures, thanks for sharing them.
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M maroon clown hosts in my gonipora. I don't know how long the gonipora will last though, it has receeded about 35% over the last 7 months.

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Clowns, especially false and true percs will host in just about anything, a anemone is not even needed. And, as the others stated, clownfish take to specific anemones in the wild.

With that said, I don't recommend recreating an anemone/clown relationship because anemones currently have such a poor record of survival in captivity. Also, most clowns these days have never even seen one as most have been tank-raised. I have personally seen tomato, false, and true perculas take to a wide range of pseudo-host including mushrooms, Zoanthids, Sarcophyton, and various LPS corals (most notably Euphyllia sp.). My own pair of perculas has taken to a hammer coral (E. paradivisa):





If you would really like to study up on clownfish, and potential true and pseudo-hosts....I recommend Joyce Wilkerson's Clownfishes book as an incredible resource from captive care to breeding. It also details specific anemone/anemonefish relationships for those who feel they may be ready and able to try the real thing (if so, E. quadricolor does seem the "best" option right now, and a natural host for several species of clowns)

--Sorry for the longwinded first post, I am getting deep into clownfish and potential breeding right now so a lot of information is fresh in my head !--
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Hey hoops, great post!! Not long winded at all!!
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