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Old 12-12-2016, 05:36 AM   #1
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This really upset me

Don't know if you have seen this? Apparently our SW fish are still being mostly collected by Cyanide and killed by food fisherman blasting. Unreal.


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Old 12-12-2016, 12:11 PM   #2
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I've actually watched all the presentations from this years MACNA.
The cyanide isn't anything new, it isn't a practice that you see worldwide. An example would be Hawaii where it is illegal, but then again many things with collection are. I believe that was also discussed in one of the presentations, just not that one.
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Old 12-12-2016, 05:27 PM   #3
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One positive thing she said was that a Cn test is in development so consumers and distributors can test there fish for Cn after they buy them. Would help make decisions about future acquisitions.
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Old 12-12-2016, 05:29 PM   #4
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How the saltwater hobby is destroying our oceans

The Horrendous Way Fish are Captured for Your Aquarium?With Cyanide

Do you care where your fish came from?
Do you seek out locally bred fish?
Should we put an end to saltwater fish keeping for the greater good of humanity and our planet?
Did you know this is happening?

Lets discuss! Please avoid personal attacks. Be respectful. thank you.
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How the saltwater hobby is destroying our oceans

I like to think most good aquarists will buy fish from reputable sellers and fish and live rock/dry rock that isn't taken away from the wild. Especially since even though it's environmental effects are terrible, it's just cruel to take a fish from their real environment and trapping it inside a glass box that will never fully replicate any aspect of its real habitat imo.
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And no we shouldn't stop keeping fish, as long as we make sure to get fish from breeders and not the wild
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95% of saltwater fish in the hobby are directly caught from the ocean and are not captive bred.
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Old 12-12-2016, 06:16 PM   #8
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They're making huge strides in captive breeding especially with tangs and larger fish. I believe the first hippo tangs were just bred in captivity. Yes most SW fish are taken from the oceans currently and cyanide is a huge issue but I wouldn't say the SW hobby is destroying our oceans. There's a lot worse things humans have done that have led to the declines of the oceans reefs.
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Unfortunately, the fish keeping hobby is far from the cause of the decline of the oceans. Yes, there were ( and probably still are) areas in the world that used chemicals to collect the fish we keep but there are less of those areas now. HOWEVER, environmental reasons are more to blame for the decline of the oceans than fish collectors are. It's happened here in FL and was directly caused by human activities NOT associated with tropical fish collecting. Yes, human activity is a major cause of the decline even if you don't believe in climate change being a cause but it's not from collecting fish. Look at the decimation of the shark population solely for the fins to make soup. The problem is that without the top predators, the system collapses and it's shown by the areas where there is no shark collecting and those areas are teaming with fish life.
Now, if you want to be a responsible aquarist, don't try to keep a fish that grows to 20 lbs in a tank that only holds 50 gallons of water. Don't keep a fish that needs open water to swim in in a tank that is highly decorated because it looks nicer that way. Don't keep trying to mix the fish you want instead of mixing the fish that can be mixed.

Threads like this are good for discussion but without the facts, they are not really beneficial. Here's some articles you should read:
Massive 40% decline in ocean's phytoplankton puts entire food chain under threat | Daily Mail Online

Loss of Biodiversity and Extinctions — Global Issues

(This last one is science and not opinion.)

It's not because of the tropical fish industry.
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This does not come close to the disrespect we show this planet.
It would be nice if it was different [I mean this] , but from an avid 30+ year keeper not that big of a deal IMO.
I didn't watch the link as in this day finding ANYTHING without some personal spin is difficult to say the least.
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