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Old 05-24-2006, 05:37 PM   #11
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I have a 55 gallon and did mine 1/3 at a time. I also had LS in there as well, so I sifted the coral in the water. I did it right before I did my PWC. The coral looked nice, but I got tired of cleaning it and it limited my on a cool cleaning crew and fish that I wanted. Goby/pistol shrimp and a few others.
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don't use a glass to scoop the CC (I really don't know what I was thinking, and now there is a small piece of glass somewhere in my sand bed.)
Some suggest using a PVC to pour the new sand down into the bottom of the tank...Get PVC with a decent diameter...I didn't and it turned out being a real pain trying to get wet sand down that little hole.
I put my sand in a plastic bowl and let it fill up w/water, then slowly moved the bowl to the bottom and slowly let the sand come out of the bowl...I didn't get too bad of a sand storm.
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Old 05-24-2006, 05:51 PM   #12
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hey ckmn101 I guess it depends on if you want a deep sand bed or only a few inches of the stuff. I switched to sand from crushed coral in all my tanks about 5 years ago, and it was a pain in the neck the first time you do it. I only have from 1-3 inches (it does get moved arround by errant powerheads, and ticked off clownfish of all things) in my main tank and one inch in both my nanos.

I would suggest you read up on what a deep sand bed does, how it works, and what not to do before you go that route. There are some tricks to know so that you don't mess it up.

If all you want is to put a couple of inches of sand in your tank, my post has plenty of info on how to do it. It is messy, but the silt will clean in a couple of days at the most. It won't stay pristine and white forever either. I have tons of hermits, snails, and sand sifting conch and starfish and my sand still needs vacuuming every so often, which is why I want to switch to a deep sand bed and get all the critters to go with it - mostly worms. I probably need more hermits as well. There are places on the web that sell sand critters for deep sand beds. Mostly worms, but mysid shrimp, tiny starfish and others also live in the stuff. You tell me a reason why NOT to have mysid shrimp breeding in your sand bed - the fish and coral love them. I figure it would be cheaper in the long run if the fish could eat some from the tank instead of buying frozen all the time. I got a pair of skunk cleaner shrimp (instead of just keeping one) years ago just so that they would breed and release the fry into the tank for the fish and coral to snack on. I have noticed that skunk cleaners tend to stop cleaning if you put food they like to eat in the tank every day.

I like the argonite sand for the simple reson that it keeps the PH where it needs to be. I checked PH all the time the first couple of years I had the sand in there, but it never changed, ever. It is VERY stable with argonite sand.

If you are ripping out all your substrate and going from nothing to sand, I would think you could do it all at once, it is not as if you have any live sand in there now that could get smothered! I would suggest putting cheaper sand in there first, and getting your hands on some live sand from somewhere and putting that in there last, on top of it all.

If and when I find this tropical stuff, I will have to do it a little at a time since I allready have live sand in the aquarium now, just not enough.

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Old 05-24-2006, 06:11 PM   #13
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I have noticed that skunk cleaners tend to stop cleaning if you put food they like to eat in the tank every day.
My cleaner shrimp got lazy too! LOL!

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I would think you could do it all at once, it is not as if you have any live sand in there now that could get smothered!
You end up stirring up the nasties that are in the CC, plus it might not give the CC critters a chance to move from the remaining CC into the sand....Just a thought...
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Old 05-25-2006, 10:36 AM   #14
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Re: Kolorscape play sand

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I just tested a batch of kolorscape (Old Castle) WHITE play sand in vinegar.

This stuff is NOT argonite. Do not buy it and think you are buffering anything.

From what I have read, you are looking for the TROPICAL white play sand, and Old Castle does distribute it, just not at this Wallyworld.

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Very odd. A friend of mine tested it and said it fizzed. Perhaps there are diffrent batches running around.
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I found tons of Kolorscape today at HD here in Chicagoland, that wasn't there 2 days ago. I tested it at the store and could get no fizz, yet it says it may contain silicates which implies it is not silica based sand, so what is it then? Can you look at the grains under the microscope (I have access to them) and tell that way and put this "aragonite or not" to sleep for good?
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The vinagar is the easiest way. It will fizzle. I looked at the same stuff at my HD, and it was no Aragonite. I would think, under a microscope, it would look very sharp, like quartz or broken glass (silica). Aragonite might possibly be smoother, not as many sharp edges...But I'm not the expert.
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ONLY ARGONITE will buffer your tank's PH - forever.
The buffering capability of aragonite sand only lasts the first 6-9 months and after that has a much less to no affect on your ph.

Finding true aragonite play sand proved too difficult for me in my area so I went with CaribSea Aragamax Grand Bahama Sand which was costly but I’ve been very happy with.

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Some suggest using a PVC to pour the new sand down into the bottom of the tank...Get PVC with a decent diameter...I didn't and it turned out being a real pain trying to get wet sand down that little hole.
I use a 4” wide 24” long pipe. Just curious but what size did you use?
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I use a 4” wide 24” long pipe. Just curious but what size did you use?
LOL! I can't remember the exact size but it wasn't wide enough, plus the sand was wet. I use the same sand as you. I just put it in a bowl and let it fill up and sink it to the bottom and pour it out. Works pretty well. I just finished switching my CC to sand and love it. Now I can get a clown and anenmoe! Yeeehawww!!!!
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I just tested a batch of kolorscape (Old Castle) WHITE play sand in vinegar.

This stuff is NOT argonite. Do not buy it and think you are buffering anything.

From what I have read, you are looking for the TROPICAL white play sand, and Old Castle does distribute it, just not at this Wallyworld.

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Very odd. A friend of mine tested it and said it fizzed. Perhaps there are diffrent batches running around.
I went to Wal-Mart today and they had the Kolorscape sand. It was NOT the tropical. I got a bag and brought it home, poured some viniger on it and it made bubbles. I went back and got more to start my 150g with in a few weeks. This was in South Carolina.
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