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Old 04-19-2004, 04:09 PM   #1
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Two Lil Fishies Kalk vs Ball's Pickling Lime

OK, for years I have been using LFS bought kalk, either Kents of TLF, when I finally learned about Pickling Lime, I was using my current 1 lb of TLF kalk. Well that's gone and the little woman picked me up a lb of Ball's Pickling Lime at the grocers and I need to make some kalk for the tank. Is there a noticable difference in potency of the two. I am currently using 2 tsp per gallon of RO water spiked with 2 tsp of vinegar. If I do the same with the Ball's, am I going to see CA and ALK levels decline?
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The active ingredients are the same, 100% Calcium Hydroxide. You will not see a difference. OK, I take that back. Your wallet will get fatter.
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Old 04-19-2004, 06:11 PM   #3
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But will the imputities in the CaHO make a difference when spiking with vinegar?
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I haven't seen any adverse effects. It's food grade so there aren't too many heavy metals and poisonous substances. Whos knows what grade the commercial kalkwasser's CaHO is? Been using it for a LONG time. I spike with a healthy amount of vinigar too.
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Old 04-19-2004, 08:08 PM   #5
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I was using Mrs Wages pickling lime and tried some Seachem stuff that was sent to me and I didnt notice any difference in either one... They both mixed and worked the same... If you want to pay for shipping and package you can have my seachem Stuff.. Its almost full.. Hell I hook ya up with my Mrs Wages stuff as well for cost that I paid online like 1.85lb plus actual shipping LOL.. I have 3 bags left.. like $13.00 total at most will get you my remaining 3 bags/lbs of lime plus the Seachem stuff LOL.. Like you told me Save the money and use the Food grade stuff LOL..

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I am learning all about the things needed to keep a sucessful saltwater tank. I am alittle confused as to what you would use kalk for and what type of creatures are needing this in the tank. I have used this pickling lime before in other things but haven't caught on the tank usage!
Could someone put a light on this for me!!
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Old 04-20-2004, 01:46 AM   #7
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Reef Tanks require Calcium and Alkalinity.. and they usually say between 8-12 DKH for Alk and 350-450 for Calcium... When you have SPS, clams, coraline, LPS and such they use up the Calcium and Alk.. What Kalk or pickling lime does is replace both Ca and Alk if dosed rather slowly (dripped) in a balanced method... Most ppl normally Dose nightly but all depends on the levels of the tank... And they usually dose 1 tbsp per Gal of RO and replace it as their Top off water... If you evaporate 3gpd then kalk would be 3tbsp to 3g and dripped in over a period of 8-12hrs or so... Therefore making it so you dont have to do as much dosing if any of Ca and Alk supplements such and ESVs bionic or C-balance... It also Precips phosphates out of the system as well..

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James,
Thanks for the quick reply!
My next question I didn't add before was this. what is the vinegar for? I know it is acidic. I am sure it is white vinegar you would use.
Thanks for the help me understand this all.
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The vinegar actually raises the levels of Calcium that can be dissolved out of the Kalk... For ppl like Kevin who have alot of SPS and like to get as much bang for the buck it works quite well... Most dont Use vinegar but for hevilly stocked tanks it helps if you eat up alot of calcium. I used to use vinegar on my tank but I just couldnt keep up with my depletion rates no matter what I did LOL.. So I got me a Ca reactor...

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Does Kalk keep the PH up also? I had troubles for awhile with low PH and now I am using a PH buffer to keep it up to 8.3.
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