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Old 05-30-2006, 01:56 AM   #1
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UV STERILIZER worth it or not?

guys i have a tang with ich and i cant shake it, yes i have a qt but its too small for all fish.
i have tried various products that are reef safe, but nothing really has worked, he did rid it but 3 days later he got it again.
anyways is the UV STERILIZER of any real value?
the one i am looking at is below
my question is this worth it???

your help is much appreciated.

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Old 05-30-2006, 01:58 AM   #2
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As long as there is a fish for your ich to host you will never get rid of it, sorry.
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Old 05-30-2006, 03:11 AM   #3
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I know i will never get rid of it, which really pisses me off, but at least the UV should kill some of the ICH right, or am i wasting my time and eletricity?
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UV is not a waste. It helps keep ur water clean from parasites and algae. As for treating ich, u'll never get rid of the existing ich, i don't think. There will always be a tiny/small amount of them in ur tank. Im guilty of not treating ich with hypo nor copper but setting up a UV in my 29G. 1 of my fish died before the UV got home , but none has died since I got the UV. My 2 clowns and chromis never seem to be infected anymore. I added a small chromis 2 weeks ago. After one night of being in the tank, 10 - 15 spots appeared on the newcomer but it cleared up after 3 - 4 days and havn't seem to be reinfected for more than 1 week. So...IMO, the UV helps existing fish fight ich by reducing the parasites population, allowing the fish to be exposed to just a small amount of ich. By feeding garlic (which i did) u'll also increase their immunity. With their strengthen immunity vs. small amount of ich, the fish will eventually build an immune system for ich IF the fish are strong enuf. It's just like the concept of vaccine. We are injected with a small, weaken/dead amount of virus when we were young so we could build an immnune system agaisnt it.

Anyway, i hope u make a right choice. I would go with hypo or copper but i couldn't keep up with the WC's. RIght now... im scared of adding any new fish cuz if i get a weak newcomer... HTH
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Old 05-30-2006, 11:33 AM   #5
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2revup,

UV's are far from a waste and I consider them an important part of a healthy reef aquarium. While a lot of people have great success in reef tanks without UV I think they serve an important role. As for them totally clearing up ich that is likely a no. If there is ich in your aquarium water and attached to a fish (the white cyst you see) then the UV cannot nail it. Although with the right wattage and flow rate UV's are known to be effective against bacteria, free-floating algae, and even some parasites.

While a UV cant totally prevent ich it can keep parasite numbers low and possibly decrese the severity of an outbreak. When keeping corals UV's are very effective at eliminating some harmful bacteria and also keep algae levels down. One thing you want to be sure of is that you are not rushing water through your UV. A flow rate of 100-140 gallons per hour should suffice for your tank with 80 gallons per hour being better.

As for the unit you are looking at I cant vouch for its quality. The UV systems I recommend are those made my Aqua Ultraviolet. While not the cheapest on the market they are well built and effective.
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thank guys i will start biding.
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2revup, if ur looking for a cheap UV with good performance. I'd say start looking at the Coralife Turbo Twist UV. HTH

PS I probably sound like i work for coralife now lol
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thanks fishfink i will look into that one cheers.
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UV - some good things have been said in this thread, I won't repeat them. Personally, since I began running UV on my tank I have had NO ich on purple or regal tangs. I also invested in cleaner shrimp as well, and have put NO chemicals in the tank at all. I know I had a bad outbread just prior to buying the UV, I lost 3 fish and my regal tang was looking bad. Between the shrimp and UV, I have had zero problems

I recommend this route the most - shrimp will eat the parasites on the fish, and the UV will get the free-floaters. After enough time has passed, you will get them all. I noticed less and less ich on the tangs and after about a year, zero. This level has been stable at zero for the last year as well.

Make sure you are NOT buying a 'pond' uv unit - they are no good for saltwater. Flow rate is too high, I belive they are not for killing bacteria but only for killing larger algae cells. I would make sure you are buying a unit with a quartz sleave, as glass will block some UV and render the unit a waste.

Look into how easy it is to clean the unit. I gave up on my coralife unit some years ago because there was no way to clean it, on the inside of the quartz sleave. The AQUA unit I got when ich nearly wiped my tank out is pretty good. The entire thing comes apart for easy cleaning every few months.
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do you use th submersable ones or the dry units?
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