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Old 07-18-2005, 06:34 PM   #1
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What do you think of this arrangement????

Okay!!! I am working on slowly adding creatures to my 35 gallon SW tank here and there. And I have slowly pryed myself off one of our 5 120g tanks at work, and have stopped drooling over our Picasso trigger.

So far i just have a red dwarf Lionfish (who is now eating) and a domino damsel, and on order is a Marine Betta and a maroon clown.

Those will be the only larger fish in the tank, give or take with the clown(im still debating)

Now here is a list of what i am considering for the bottom of the tank:

watchman goby
emerald crab X3
scooter blenny
feather dusters
cleaner wrasse
a few small blue legged hermits
brittle sea star


If anyone has any other ideas (and please note that not all of these will be going in my tank) for what to have along the bottom, speak up..pm or post :P and lemme know

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Old 07-18-2005, 07:36 PM   #2
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Lions and Triggers dont mix, a Picasso can pick your lion to death and while trying to pick at the lion your trigger can be stung which could result in death of the trigger......

Most Triggers, Puffers, EEls & Angels do not mix with Lions, any fish that like's to pick, if they are together in that tank keep a close watch on the situation.

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Your hypothetical tank is filled with things that do not belong in there and would be majorly overstocked. The marine betta would never be happy in a tank that small (which I told you in another post). The maroon clown is one of the most, if not THE most, aggressive of the clown species and they can be real nasty when in a smaller tank. The dwarf lion, even though it is a dwarf, would most likely eat the blennies, cleaner wrasse and any other small fish you put in the tank.

I think you are courting disaster......a 35 gallon cannot hold that many fish unless they are all small.
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Old 07-18-2005, 09:01 PM   #4
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I Agree. Vtec you really should take a step back, relax and check out the recommended reading list here- http://www.aquariumadvice.com/viewtopic.php?t=17 -to gather more info and go from there. A marine betta in a 35 is definitely not a good idea. You would be setting yourself up for aggravation and failure from the get-go. Good luck.
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Old 07-19-2005, 12:56 AM   #5
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i wasn't going to put all that in there.... they are all just considerations meaning that I might put one here and there in the tank..... lol i have common sense :P i'm just giving myself some variety...

marine bettas dont get that big :P the one we had at work was full grown.. we got him in on a trade in... he was about 5 inches and the guy had him for over 3 years.. and the fish hadn't grown....

but yesh.. my 35 gallon is my temporary tank ATM.. i have a 100 gallon tank at work that the boys and I are building... so we're going to make that our after hours work!!! But for now... my damsel and lionfish are going to be the owners of my 35g right now... and all those other creatures i listed are my alternatives...
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the marine betta is too big for that tank. you asked us to comment on what you were considering putting in THAT tank, not a future 100 gallon. We did. The fish that you already have, or claim to have on order, will wreak havoc with what you have listed as possible alternatives or else are just flat inappropriate to your tank size. Yes, the betta can live in there, but it should not have to. ... I have used this analogy before, imagine living out your life in no other room of the house except the bathroom or a closet.

I realize that you had all kinds of ideas as to what can go in your tank but take the time to do some research on these fish before placing your orders.
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It is never good to stock a tank with the intent on upgrading to an acceptable size for the livestock at a later date. This is because thigns always come up and that tank upgrade will most likly take a back burner and your fish will suffer.

Since you have the lion already I would stop with that. The lion WILL eat any fish that will fit in its mouth. If the fish's you intend on getting now wont fit they very well may once the lion starts growing. The 120's that you have seen at work are a far cry in the stocking abilities than the 35 your talking about.

We dont intend on sounding so negitive but if you progress down the same road your going its going to be a very hard fight to have a happy and trouble free tank.
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I agree even with the best intentions, it's to much. Hold off til after you get a bigger tank.
Also, the fish you have listed for the bottom would be a snack for the lion. Lionfish are gulpers and can and will eat whatever it can fit in it's mouth. Even your damsel isn't safe unless it's a good bit bigger than the lion. Lions grow fast too so keep that in mind. Also, lions are considered messier than most and you have to factor in bioload. Your lion, bioload speaking, pretty much fills that 35g tank himself.
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I think everyone missed the point that it was a dwarf lion. Now no disrepect, but these things are tiny, shy individuals that perch on rocks and hide in corners. Also that it appears that wherever this person works has lots of tanks (ie. a fish store). These on-order fish could always be something the store is ordering and dumping into their tanks... *shrug*

Another missed point - the alternative options. Anyone would be *nuts* to think that everything listed would even fit into a 35g with water. Hah.

However, with that said -- I wouldn't house anything else in a 35g other than the Lion. We have a dwarf in with a dozen damsels, a picasso, a large faerie wrasse, and an undulated trigger in a **210g**. This is reasonable. A 35g? No.

My suggestions for the 35g, keep your lion in it. Maybe the damsel (pray, hope and pray some more that the lion *DOES* eat that dirty damsel toiletbowl cleaner). Save the rest of your purchases for the 100g and keep the 35g with your pretty lion.

And to answer your "what to have at the bottom" question... get lots of rock (preferably live rock). About 40 pounds worth (whatever that is in kilo's). A sandbed if you like, not necessary for housing only a lion (plus it'll make it easier to clean). A barebottom removes the necessity for hermits. In which case I'd suggest some snails (several astrea should do the job).

Let us know more specifically your plans and we will be better able to direct you to your answer.

Hope this helps some.
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Lauren IMO I would keep the lion in the 35 even after the 100 is up & running.
Is this 100 going to be a Reef or FOWLR Tank?

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