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Old 10-06-2006, 11:16 PM   #1
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Would This Design Work?

I basically followed an established sump/fuge design (Thank You Melev!!!). I want to make sure that my own version of the design will work.

The sump/fuge is a regular AGA 29G 30 x 12 x 18. I'm using:

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Danner Mag9.5 - External return pump

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Please give me your opinions on this. This is the first sump or DIY project I've ever done and I'm not planning to turn it into a big disaster

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I had a Mag9.5 on my 180 fresh at 5' head. Even with 2 1" overflow tubes it was too much pump. I had to pinch the return to keep from over flowing my tank. Now on my 180 gal reef with 2 built in over flows the 9.5 is ok for maintenance and the 1/3 hp runs the skimmer, chiller, UV and the sump.

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I had a Mag9.5 on my 180 fresh at 5' head. Even with 2 1" overflow tubes it was too much pump. I had to pinch the return to keep from over flowing my tank. Now on my 180 gal reef with 2 built in over flows the 9.5 is ok for maintenance and the 1/3 hp runs the skimmer, chiller, UV and the sump.

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Hey, thanks for the concern. Yes I was afraid of the Mag 9.5 might overflow my tank too. However, my sump/fuge design got that covered. You see the returning line is split into 3 ways - to tank, to fuge and back to returning section. The one the leads back into the return section is to conpensate any excess water from entering and flooding the main tank.
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That is a lot of items in such a space. How much room is there for evaporation? How much room is there for when the pump is off. Consider these factors.
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What do you mean by a lot of items? If you're talking about equipments, Only the Skimmer will be in the sump. The UV and Phosban reactor are going to be HOT



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If you havn't noticed, the light blue lines represents the water level in different compartments of the sump. Looking at the return sector alone, Im estimating 5 gallons+ space for water to drain down then the pump is off. Is that enough?

I'm also guessing that the water in the returning sector is good enough for at least 2 gallons of evaporation. When I'm done with the sump though, I'll add an auto top-off to the return sector.
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Yes, I noticed, but thanks.

If you returns are not plumbed too low, a five gallon resivoir may be enough.

With the auto top-off, two gallons will be enough to "contend" with evaporation.

Are you running the mag submerged or external? If submerged, look into replacing the external screws with teflon. Stainless or no, they will rust. If you run the pump external, you will not have to deal with the excess heat mag drives are infamous for.
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That sure seems like a lot of work lol...Thats a lot of pipe also thats taking up space where water could be. I also have a feeling it's going to the finiky when you try adjusting the 'blow off' so that the main tank doesn't overflow. I'd try to simplify your design a bit.

You can mount the skimmer outside of the sump if you have room, just lay some pipe for it. That would save you some space and give you more water.

It's a really cool design if but I'm worried about not having enough room for overflow from the main tank when you shut the power off.

One thing I just noticed though is that most of the water is going to be returned to the tank without any type of filtration.

Here is one I just drew up for you that in my eyes seems a bit more practicle with the exception of the blow off from the mag 9 to the skimmer return. I'd either do larger pipe on the overflow side, rig the overflow to handle more water, restricting the flow of the return pump, or try going for a smaller pump.

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