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Old 06-07-2013, 06:52 PM   #21
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If it is HLLE, then it is an environmental issue, not parasitic. Hypo will do nothing to help. You basically want a stress-free tank with pristine parameters and properly nourished fish. That seems to do the trick. Its not gonna happen for that Tang in that tank though.
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Old 06-07-2013, 07:02 PM   #22
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Your tang is sick cause he is in a 55 gallon tank an stressed that fish needs 125 gallon + tank your holding him in a small space don't matter what you treat with he will get sick again, do some research on fish so you can give them the environment that they need to survive
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Sorry to be harsh but probably why fish is getting sick
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Old 06-07-2013, 07:16 PM   #24
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4.5 feet long I might be upgrading to a 90
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Old 06-07-2013, 07:20 PM   #25
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A 10 gal QT is used to treat sick fish with considerable size and you are saying a 55 gal is not enough? I treated my 3 inch blue hippo in a 5 gal tank and he is now healthy. Lower salinity can appreciably reduce the stress and let the fish recover and then may be get credit from lfs for smaller fish.
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Old 06-07-2013, 07:36 PM   #26
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Sorry to be harsh but probably why fish is getting sick
Fish get sick when they are stressed primarily due to unfavorable environment such as unstable water parameter or being harassed by other fish. It lowers their immune system and that is when they are vulnerable to parasites and disease.
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Fish get sick when they are stressed primarily due to unfavorable environment such as unstable water parameter or being harassed by other fish. It lowers their immune system and that is when they are vulnerable to parasites and disease.
Yes, but It can also be from being in an environment that is not the correct size or that is not properly "furnished". This is a fish that should be on a six foot tank with much more water volume that is in a tank at least half that and with no rock. Its also not a 55 QT, it is a DT, so somewhat permanent versus a couple month stay over.

Hypo can lower stress, but is usually used to kill parasites that can not survive under those conditions. For HLLE, you want pristine, stable conditions and a stress-free environment. A small tank with no place to hide can not provide that.
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Exactly, that is why he needs to treat the fish now and make the 55 gal as the QT while he can before it's too late.
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:46 PM   #29
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HLLE is a condition that typically does not require QT. The fish is not diseased or ridden with parasites. Normally, improving water and environmental conditions and ensuring that it is getting proper nutrition does the job over time. I've never heard of HLLE killing a fish quickly, like Ich or MV can do, but leaving the causal factor in place will continue the deterioration of the fish, due to no improvements.

In this case...give the fish a place to feel safe, even if it means buying some pieces of PVC like you would do in a QT. rock would be best, but maybe expense is a concern? Not sure. Ideally, get it in a proper size aquarium as well. I would add vitamin supplement and maybe throw garlic in as well. couldn't hurt. I'd be willing to bet that would work.
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The fish has red dots on the body and could be just a skin infection and at the same time it's got lateral line disease. Both are symptoms of stress. Yes QT needs those hiding places. However, lowering the salinity is just one way of reducing the stress aside from other recommendations you mentioned. If there is no parasite like you believe so why bother for a garlic treatment?
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