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Old 11-01-2009, 02:17 AM   #11
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I would get a bigger tank and bigger filters. The oranda can get up to 10" long. A 38G would be a little small IMO. If you havent bought it yet I would consider a bigger tank. Maybe cruise Craigslist for a larger one cheap. A lot of times you can get one with filters and lights and such.

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Old 11-01-2009, 05:03 PM   #12
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I would get a bigger tank and bigger filters. The oranda can get up to 10" long. A 38G would be a little small IMO. If you havent bought it yet I would consider a bigger tank. Maybe cruise Craigslist for a larger one cheap. A lot of times you can get one with filters and lights and such.
well I was going to buy 55 Gal, but space was the issue. That's why I have to go with 38 gal.
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Old 11-01-2009, 05:46 PM   #13
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well if space is an issue and money isnt as big of an issue, you could go with a 60g column or something of that sort... depending on the demensions of that tank, you would probably have about the same amount of space taken up, just taller.. trust me when i say you will always want a bigger tank, and 60g would provide much more stocking compatability than a 38g... jmo
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Old 11-01-2009, 05:47 PM   #14
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They can get that big but rarely do in smaller aquariums. I had two angels in a 26g they stayed small, they didnt grow until they got into a larger aquarium. Some fish will grow no matter what but some species stunt their growth to fit their environments. Thats why you rarely see big fish in a small pond.
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Old 11-01-2009, 09:56 PM   #15
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We live in a cold environment so my parents house their pond goldfish in a ~35gal and a 20gal tank during the winter months. They have a large pond so the fish are growing quite large (and are very beautiful fish!). She was previously running 2 so-so quality HOB filters on each of the tanks. Running 2 filters per tank was working fine but the low quality filters were difficult to clean. I finally made the order and replaced the filters on the larger tank with an AquaClear 110 and swapped out one on the smaller tank with an AC 70. It's not even close to overkill with the size of the fish and it works great. It's proven to them and me that there's no such thing as a filter that is too large! I'd like to convince her to look into canister in the future but upgrading the pond filtration system is next on the to do list.
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Old 11-07-2009, 01:54 PM   #16
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Update!!!!

OK Guys, I was ready to set up my new 38 Gal Tank, I washed it and did leak test by filling it up 1/4, it was leaking, not too bad but it was. So I took it back to store, they didn't have another 38 Gal in stock. But the owner gave me 40 Gal Tank instead for no extra cost . Anyway I just filled it up again for Leak test and so far no leak, but I'll wait little bit.
Ok So any suggestion,
1. How should I transfer from my 15 Gal to this new 40 Gal tank? (Just fill it up and transfer all the stuff including Filter and fish to 40 Gal)
2. Or I have to cycle 40 Gal Again?

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Old 11-07-2009, 01:56 PM   #17
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you definitely need to cycle the new tank.
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Old 11-07-2009, 02:18 PM   #18
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OK Guys, I was ready to set up my new 38 Gal Tank, I washed it and did leak test by filling it up 1/4, it was leaking, not too bad but it was. So I took it back to store, they didn't have another 38 Gal in stock. But the owner gave me 40 Gal Tank instead for no extra cost . Anyway I just filled it up again for Leak test and so far no leak, but I'll wait little bit.
Ok So any suggestion,
1. How should I transfer from my 15 Gal to this new 40 Gal tank? (Just fill it up and transfer all the stuff including Filter and fish to 40 Gal)
2. Or I have to cycle 40 Gal Again?

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Yes, just transfer everything over to the new tank. You may get a mini cycle, but that should be short lived.
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Old 11-07-2009, 03:12 PM   #19
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it isnt going to matter if you dont have proper filtration for the 40g
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Old 11-07-2009, 03:45 PM   #20
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Unless more fish are added, there isn't going to be more of a bioload in the tank than what there is now. The amount of time it takes for the water to turn over will be increased, however in the same respect the amount of waste the fish produce will be diluted. So, all in all, this will be fine for a temporary arrangement.

I do believe that transferring the bacteria over will be better than starting from scratch. In post 8, it is stated that when money is saved up a new filter will be purchased.

The other option the is to leave the tank empty until a new filter can be purchased, then transfer over everything to seed the new filter. Personally, I'd get my fish in a bigger tank and put the old filters on it as a short term fix.
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