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Old 05-01-2003, 04:08 AM   #11
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You have had this tank for 3 years and you have never vacuumed the gravel????????
The gravel gets vacuumed every water change. When the suggestion was made to clean the gravel really well, I thought it meant remove it.

Given the followup suggestion is to clean everything really well and start again, I am now confused - particularly given the reference to a gravel cleaner. Is this a solution, a piece of hardware or just the usual gravel vac?
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Old 05-01-2003, 04:14 AM   #12
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Please tell me there isn't a plugged up nasty UGF under that unvacuumed gravel. My guess is anerobic bacteria.
OK, I will tell you - there ISN'T a UGF!!! I have a 600 litre external Eheim filter fitted with two trays of substrate (large and small) and two filter pads. Obviously good water throughput and good surface disruption at exit point through the spray head.
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Old 05-01-2003, 05:43 PM   #13
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Thank god. It would seem that you are doing everything right. Keep us informed. This is a perplexing one. Losing our finned friends is a part of keeping an aqaurium, But not like this. I have a couple of books on diseases. I am will do a little research to see what contagious diseases have no obvious signs. Other than the signs of being unhappy (pouting, hiding, not eating). The only thing I can think of is some kind of chemical build up.

I use just a regular gravel vac. They do make a unit that you hook up to a canister filter that actually spins the gravel rapidly, while the canister is filtering out the detrius. I don't think it is from the gravel though. You do regular cleaning like we all do. I must be in the water.

Before you go to the work of breaking down and starting over. And recycling which will probably kill more of your fish. Maybe try polishing the water with a diatom filter. Some LFS rent them. I know mine does.
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Yeah i'm getting too many aquariums. Maybe I'll stop setting them up after I get a 125 or 180 or 300 gallon...... Sure I will. hahahaha
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Old 05-02-2003, 09:00 PM   #14
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OK, here's an update for the weekend. Have now lost two corys and three more guppies.

Survivors at this stage are :

2 x clown loach
4 x neons
1 x kissing gourami
1 x angel
2 x powder blue dwarf gourami
1 x Danio (forgot about him in my orginal inventory)
2 x sword tails
3 x guppy

Performed a 30% water change this morning with a thorough gravel vacuum. Have also added 50mL of Promethyasul as suggested by my local aquarium store (by the way, what is an LFS - dont think we have them in Australia)

Tank water is now a wonderful blue colour - lets see what happens over the next few days.
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hahahahahaha, I'm pretty sure you do. LFS = Local Fish Store
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hahahahahaha, I'm pretty sure you do. LFS = Local Fish Store
Gulp!! Holds head in shame and deep embarrassment
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Old 05-03-2003, 08:47 PM   #17
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No need to be embarrassed. I found it to be cute. Some of us chat junkies use those letter abbreviations so much, that I find myself going to write lol or omg in bussiness letters.
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