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Old 08-02-2003, 11:46 PM   #21
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Ashley, how did you go about convincing pet stores near you to keep their bettas in better conditions? Unfortunately, i live across the street from a lower end Petco, which can't even take care of its big tanks, and they have tables on end of tiny, putrid bowls with bettas rammed inside of them. It's a huge business, and they are obviously really big sellers. I too am compelled to rescue as many fish as I can, but in this situation, everyone is right in how that is really not the practical solution. However, I really doubt I negatively affected anything by purchasing one fish. He is incredibly beautiful and entertaining, and I do feel that I saved the life of a creature that deserved to live.

So obviously, I was not encouraging people to buy out all their LFS's betta stock and cram a tank into every spare inch of space in their homes. I was just pointing out that having one or two bettas can be a really rewarding experience that benefits another life besides your own.

sweet, you have access to a cycled tank that you can use a culture from in your new one, right? I put gravel from my tank that just completed a fishless cycle in the betta bowl. I also filled it w/ water from the cycled tank. Because it is so small, i think this was enough to cycle it completely, as the levels have not risen in the 2 weeks since.
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Old 08-03-2003, 04:18 AM   #22
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The problem in my big(ger) tank is that since i have 2 dirty lil goldfish in there, I have to clean pretty frequently, so the bacteria colonies are not yet stable. (Nitrites well drop to zero, then do a little mini jump to around .10ppm after I gravel-vac or rinse the filter). So I kinda wanted to wait to see how things settle there before I make a betta-house out of the lil tank...
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Old 08-03-2003, 11:30 AM   #23
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The problem in my big(ger) tank is that since i have 2 dirty lil goldfish in there, I have to clean pretty frequently, so the bacteria colonies are not yet stable. (Nitrites well drop to zero, then do a little mini jump to around .10ppm after I gravel-vac or rinse the filter). So I kinda wanted to wait to see how things settle there before I make a betta-house out of the lil tank...
Are you rinsing the filter in tapwater? Maybe you're killing off some of your bacterial colony by rinsing too often. That could be why your nitrites are surging.

Its my understanding that you're supposed to gently rinse them in the tankwater that you've drained (into a clean container, of course!).

Of course, I'm still waiting for the silly nitrites to form in my fishless cycle so I'm no expert. Just tryin' to help!
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Old 08-03-2003, 03:17 PM   #24
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Bettas are very happy in small containers and anything from no current to higher current and bubbles (though I think they prefer less current/bubbles). They also can tolerate cooler temps so you don't have to worry about a heater, and that is why they go well with white cloud minnows. Java fern does not grow in the gravel, but attaches its roots to objects, so you can rubber band it to a rock or small piece of driftwood, or even a coconut shell half, and it will permanently attach. No gravel required. It is also low light so it will do fine in a little betta hex.
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I'm rinsing the filter in tank water that I siphon off the top.

The problem isn't that there aren't bacteria...(the tank has already cycled completely), it's just that because I'm gravel-vac-ing pretty frequently in a freshly cycled tank...a "stable" population hasn't quite taken hold. Each time I fuss with it, I knock the ecosystem out of balance. It can take a good long time for a bacterial colony to become stable, and a matter of seconds for it to become unstable (anyone who's interested should read up on wastewater treatment!)....especially in my little 10 gallon (isn't something like..the smaller the tank, the harder it is to keep the water quality good?).

My levels aren't really spiking to alarming levels....just kind of obnoxious not quite zero levels

I think i'm probably just being obsessive, since I took too many microbiology classes....
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I would not even worry about cycling a betta tank. You do frequent partial water changes in such a small tank, you don't have to worry about excesses. That is why they do so well in those tiny jars - 100% water changes every day means no cycling. If this tank was to have the UGF as its only filter and you pitched that, then just do "massive" water changes every day. Keep it simple.
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Since I'm still pretty new to fishkeeping...I guess I just wanted to make sure my goldies are fat + happy before I bring anyone else home

I think the betta will be far simpler, actually...hopefully it'll poop less too.
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TankGirl, i was about to say the same thing, but i shied away for it in fear that it would not be seen as the "right" answer. But yes, I didn't really think about cycling my betta bowl since the water is changed so frequently.

And yes, the betta will poop far less than the goldfish.
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Old 08-05-2003, 05:31 PM   #29
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I just talked it over with the manager and told him how it would look so much better, and it would be less work for them, and he would make so much more money off them if they were all healthy ect ect. I brought up the money part a lot too, you've just gotta be very polite and seem really conserned. Fortunatly the managers of the LPS here actually know a bit about fish keeping so they were willing to go along with my ideas

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Old 08-10-2003, 11:42 PM   #30
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Betta bowl

Hi...I think the novelty 2-gallon jar is fine for the betta. Just make sure you can clean it easily. I'm glad to hear that you aren't using the UGF! Bettas don't mind bubbles. It's just currents and water movement that they don't like. I have my bettas in a 5 1/2 gallon divided tank, and I have a small sponge filter that makes bubbles. You would have to see what size filter you could fit in your jar.

When we go on a long vacation, I take the bettas to my mom's house. I put them in a "critter keeper" about a gallon size, and I found the perfect size bucket to put the critter keeper in. I fill up the critter keeper about halfway so it won't slosh around in the car, and bring some more treated water in a gallon jug. When I get them to my mom's house, I let the water and the critter keepers sit for about half an hour to stabilize the temp, and then I add the new water to the critter keepers. The bettas might be kinda quiet for that first day, but my mom says that they quickly become active again. So if you take your betta from school to your house, that shouldn't be that hard on him, provided it's not the middle of winter!!

Good luck with your new betta!
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