Can I keep a a pair of Bolivian Rams? - Aquarium Advice

swanandmokashi · 11-14-2006, 04:41 PM

PLease look in my signature for my current bio-load. I really like the Bolivian Rams and was planning to keep a pair (or 3) in the tank.

How will it affect my bioload ? Also I have not seen these guys in Petco, Petsmart or any of the big stores and don't have any decent LFS (that I know of) in this area. Where do you guys get the rams from ?

JDogg · 11-14-2006, 05:16 PM

got mine at a LFS, you could order some online, or look for breeders in your area...

Jchillin · 11-14-2006, 08:06 PM

I got mine from a breeder at my Aquarium Club. You could try Aquabid.com, the only downfall there is the seller(s) may want to send more than you need. If that occurs, try speaking with the seller(s) individually and see what happens.

**Zagz** · 11-14-2006, 10:00 PM

IMO the 15 gal might be ok with 2 rams, certainly not the 3 gal. Check with your local aquarium society to see if anyone might have rams that they want to part with.

severum mama · 11-14-2006, 10:21 PM

IMO the footprint of a 15 gallon just isn't large enough to keep Bolivians. They do get a bit larger than GBRs and IME they are a little more territorial. I would recommend a bare minimum of a 20 long for these fish. Have you considered GBRs/gold rams (same species)?

swanandmokashi · 11-14-2006, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Zagz

IMO the 15 gal might be ok with 2 rams, certainly not the 3 gal. Check with your local aquarium society to see if anyone might have rams that they want to part with.

Oh of course the 15 gallon -- will it be ok for 2 more fish ?

JDogg · 11-14-2006, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by severum mama

IMO the footprint of a 15 gallon just isn't large enough to keep Bolivians. They do get a bit larger than GBRs and IME they are a little more territorial. I would recommend a bare minimum of a 20 long for these fish. Have you considered GBRs/gold rams (same species)?

i agree the 15 woulb be better suited for a pair of GBG not so much with a pair of bolivians...

**Zagz** · 11-14-2006, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by swanandmokashi

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Originally Posted by Zagz

IMO the 15 gal might be ok with 2 rams, certainly not the 3 gal. Check with your local aquarium society to see if anyone might have rams that they want to part with.

Oh of course the 15 gallon -- will it be ok for 2 more fish ?

Are you speaking of Bolivian rams or other fish? I have to defer to the expertise of others with Bolivian's. I have GBR's and they stay pretty small. If you want other fish you could add a couple of other fish, perhaps more but different tetras?

FWIW I keep my GBR's in a species only tank that is 20 gals.

bs6749 · 11-15-2006, 12:17 AM

Bolivians will/could get up to around 4 inches long. 20 gallon tank at the LEAST. Only buy them in pairs unless you are getting all of the same sex.

Lonewolfblue · 11-15-2006, 12:44 AM

I agree, a minimum of 20G long for Bolivians. They do get a little big for a 10G or 15G. Could ddo a single by himself though, like a centerpiece fish. A single will do ok along.

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swanandmokashi Aquarium Advice FINatic Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Cary NC USA Posts: 650 Images: 6	Can I keep a a pair of Bolivian Rams? PLease look in my signature for my current bio-load. I really like the Bolivian Rams and was planning to keep a pair (or 3) in the tank. How will it affect my bioload ? Also I have not seen these guys in Petco, Petsmart or any of the big stores and don't have any decent LFS (that I know of) in this area. Where do you guys get the rams from ? __________________ 55 Gallon FW Eco-complete Substrate Equipment : In-line heater, RENA XP3 filter, 130 Watts Fluroscent Plants - Hygrophila polysperma "sunset", Bacopa caroliniana,Bacopa australis,Rotala rotundifolia "colorata", Water Sprite, Ludwigia repens,Hydrocotyle verticillata, Swords, Stargrass, Anubias Nana, Petite Nana, Dwarf Sagittaria, LUDWIGIA ARCUATA,Micranthemum umbrosum Fish - 3 Bolivian Rams, 2 Australian rainbowfish, 6 Bloodfin tetras , 4 julii cory cats, 1 Ottos,1 Bristle nose Pl*co Read my aquarium autobiography at http://www.swanandmokashi.com/HomePa.../Aquarium.aspx

11-14-2006, 08:06 PM	#3
Jchillin Aquarium Advice Addict Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New York, NY (The Big Apple) Posts: 12,976 Images: 47	I got mine from a breeder at my Aquarium Club. You could try Aquabid.com, the only downfall there is the seller(s) may want to send more than you need. If that occurs, try speaking with the seller(s) individually and see what happens. __________________ _________________________________

11-14-2006, 10:21 PM	#5
severum mama Aquarium Advice Addict Community Mentor Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 2,771 Images: 22	IMO the footprint of a 15 gallon just isn't large enough to keep Bolivians. They do get a bit larger than GBRs and IME they are a little more territorial. I would recommend a bare minimum of a 20 long for these fish. Have you considered GBRs/gold rams (same species)? __________________ WE CAN STAGE A RUNAWAY GOLF CART MARATHON 5 gallon, 45 gallon, and 55 gallon planted 75 gallon SA/CA cichlids 8 gallon Oceanic BioCube nano reef

11-15-2006, 12:44 AM	#10
Lonewolfblue Planted Geek Community Mentor Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Wenatchee, WA Posts: 7,871 Images: 7	I agree, a minimum of 20G long for Bolivians. They do get a little big for a 10G or 15G. Could ddo a single by himself though, like a centerpiece fish. A single will do ok along. __________________ 26G Medium Planted Community - 65W CF Lighting - Emperor 280 Bio-Wheel - Established Feb 2004 55G Aggressive Community - Filstar XP3 - Established Dec 2005 75G Heavily Planted - Pressurized CO2, 520W Lighting, Filstar XP3 with spraybar - Established Feb 2006 29G Planted - 130W Lighting, Filstar XP2 with spraybar - Established May 2006 5 10G Tanks - Various setups - Tanks Established May-Sep 2006. 3 currently empty. 5.5G Crypt/Java Fern Tank - Established Oct 2006 My 29G Thread : http://www.aquariumadvice.com/viewtopic.php?t=78469 My 75G Thread : http://www.aquariumadvice.com/viewtopic.php?t=70764 My 75G Makeover Thread: http://www.aquariumadvice.com/viewtopic.php?t=87691

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11-15-2006, 12:17 AM	#9
bs6749 Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Lawton, MI Posts: 1,485	Bolivians will/could get up to around 4 inches long. 20 gallon tank at the LEAST. Only buy them in pairs unless you are getting all of the same sex.

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