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I tried they got sucked in the one I have is this
Hagen Elite Underwater Mini Filter, UL Listed
http://amzn.com/B0009YD7D4

Older model tho

U tried using sponge filters and they got sucked in!! What!! That is almost impossible unless they went into the hole where the bubbles come out. The Hagen is not a sponge filter. Sponge is like this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005LMQCW2/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1369449008&sr=8-2&pi=SL75

Or:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0056XVF82/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?qid=1369449575&sr=8-3&pi=SL75
 
U tried using sponge filters and they got sucked in!! What!! That is almost impossible unless they went into the hole where the bubbles come out. The Hagen is not a sponge filter. Sponge is like this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005LMQCW2/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1369449008&sr=8-2&pi=SL75

Or:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0056XVF82/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?qid=1369449575&sr=8-3&pi=SL75

Ohh I thought it just meant it used a sponge inside :) lol


The one I have is super powerful stirs up the entire tank
 
Ohh I thought it just meant it used a sponge inside :) lol

The one I have is super powerful stirs up the entire tank

Oh. Lol. No not a sponge inside. An actual sponge filter. :) u dont want too much current either as fry don't like strong currents.
U need an air pump to make the sponge filter work btw.
 
Off topic but I was looking at sponge filters and found this what exactly is the purpose / use ?

Aquatop Aquarium Air Driven Internal Corner Filter
http://amzn.com/B006QI831I

It's like a sponge filter becuz it uses an air pump to pump water but its also similar to a canister filter becuz it has three layers of media. So it's a sponge/canister filter mix. I think it is fry safe but not sure. I have never had one before but have seen vids before and it looked pretty good. The media helps the water get cleaner and usually is bio,chemical, and mechanical type of filtering combined in one.
 
It's like a sponge filter becuz it uses an air pump to pump water but its also similar to a canister filter becuz it has three layers of media. So it's a sponge/canister filter mix. I think it is fry safe but not sure. I have never had one before but have seen vids before and it looked pretty good. The media helps the water get cleaner and usually is bio,chemical, and mechanical type of filtering combined in one.

Might get one for my shrimp vase . Shrimp can be left in a vase right ?

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It's about 3 9/10's quart filled to the top so basically a gallon .
 
Might get one for my shrimp vase . Shrimp can be left in a vase right ?

It's about 3 9/10's quart filled to the top so basically a gallon .

R u keeping the fry in the vase? Keeping them in the vase should be fine as long as u have air being pump into it. ( sponge/mini canister filter or air stone ). The water can't get too cold either. U can prob attach a small heater on the side of the vase.
 
R u keeping the fry in the vase? Keeping them in the vase should be fine as long as u have air being pump into it. ( sponge/mini canister filter or air stone ). The water can't get too cold either. U can prob attach a small heater on the side of the vase.

No they are in a 1.77 gallon tank seen to the right in that last picture. "Kind of"
 
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