Cloudy water and a dead fish... - Aquarium Advice

Hrafnkel · 07-20-2005, 04:45 PM

I have a ten gallon tank currently stocked with 7 (formerly eight) fish; 3 small tetras, 3 cories, and one dojo loach (still small, gunna move him out when he gets bigger). Previously, there was also a small common goldfish in the tank, that was dead when I got up this morning. The body showed no sign of disease or violence from other fish, and all other fish are behaving normally. The water has gotten somewhat cloudy over the past two or three days for unknown reasons, but is currently improving due to a 2 gallon water change that I just finished with. What could be the cause of the cloudiness and the death of the goldfish?

Bhunsucker · 07-20-2005, 04:56 PM

Harfnkel Welcome to AA!!!

How long has the tank been setup? Also it is not good to mix goldfish with other tropical fish. Goldfish have a very high ammonia output. Do you have a test kit? If so what are your water parameters at? We need a little more info about your setup.

Hrafnkel · 07-20-2005, 04:59 PM

My ammonia is pretty low, currently. The goldfish was initially just a starter fish, actually, but he's gone now so his ammonia output won't be an issue. However, I believe that he might have had an ailment that has been in his system since he was purchased, because there were a few times when he had a trail coming off of his abdomen. The tank's been set up for about 2 weeks, now. I don't have a test kit yet, but the ammonia has been treated.

Bhunsucker · 07-20-2005, 05:07 PM

Cycling a [acronym:49441cff17="Freshwater"]FW[/acronym:49441cff17] tropical tank with a goldfish is not a real good idea [acronym:49441cff17="In my opinion"]IMO[/acronym:49441cff17]. You should only cycle with the fish that you want or intend to keep at the end of the cycle. What have you treated your tank with for the ammonia? You really need a test kit so that you can keep up with your cycle and water changes. If you dont have a test kit some of the [acronym:49441cff17="Local Fish Store"]LFS[/acronym:49441cff17] will test your water for free. You might want to try that.

Hrafnkel · 07-20-2005, 05:10 PM

I'll look into it; and I know now about the goldfish, I just didn't at the time.

Bhunsucker · 07-20-2005, 05:19 PM

What did you put into the water to control the ammonia. This could be an issue when it comes to the tank cycle. It has the potently to hinder the cycle.

Hrafnkel · 07-20-2005, 05:21 PM

C-100. It's a small pillow-esque object that goes in the filter, supposedly to absorb ammonia. Should I remove it?

greenmaji · 07-20-2005, 05:40 PM

the bacteria that is created in the cycle lives off of ammonia, removing the ammonia with a media defeats the point of cycling the tank...

Hrafnkel · 07-20-2005, 06:39 PM

...Well, that doesn't help with what should be done.

**Zagz** · 07-21-2005, 01:48 AM

I've been through the cycling process before I found AA and know that lack of information can cost you many fish. I'd recommend getting a master test kit and doing [acronym:de30b066d0="Partial water change"]pwc[/acronym:de30b066d0]'s every few days to help reduce the stress on the fish. Also search this site for cycling fish, there are some fantastic articles and posts that will help you tons!

And welcome to AA, the best fish forum on the net. (No I'm not biased, I've just gotten so much help here.

)

07-20-2005, 04:45 PM	#1
Hrafnkel Aquarium Advice FINatic Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Highland, Texas Posts: 521	Cloudy water and a dead fish... I have a ten gallon tank currently stocked with 7 (formerly eight) fish; 3 small tetras, 3 cories, and one dojo loach (still small, gunna move him out when he gets bigger). Previously, there was also a small common goldfish in the tank, that was dead when I got up this morning. The body showed no sign of disease or violence from other fish, and all other fish are behaving normally. The water has gotten somewhat cloudy over the past two or three days for unknown reasons, but is currently improving due to a 2 gallon water change that I just finished with. What could be the cause of the cloudiness and the death of the goldfish? __________________ 2.5gal: Empty 5gal: 2 Black Mystery Snails 10gal: 2 Mickey Mouse Platys (1M1F), 1 African Butterfly Fish, 3 Khuli Loaches 29gal: 1 Green Severum, 1 Convict, 3 Bronze Cories 55gal: 5 Bloodfin Tetras, 6 Black Skirt Tetras, 1 Blood Parrot, 1 African Brown Knife, 1 Striped Raphael, 1 Ropefish, 2 Clown Loaches, 1 Yoyo Loach, 1 Angelfish

07-20-2005, 04:56 PM	#2
Bhunsucker Aquarium Advice Freak Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 385	Harfnkel Welcome to AA!!! How long has the tank been setup? Also it is not good to mix goldfish with other tropical fish. Goldfish have a very high ammonia output. Do you have a test kit? If so what are your water parameters at? We need a little more info about your setup. __________________ ---------------------------------- "Fly Low Avoid the Radar" 55Gal [acronym:b33c6825e9="Freshwater"]FW[/acronym:b33c6825e9] Aquarium AquaClear 110/500 Filter 45gal Clarity Plus Aquarium Wet/Dry DLS Aquatics Filteration System

07-20-2005, 04:59 PM	#3
Hrafnkel Aquarium Advice FINatic Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Highland, Texas Posts: 521	My ammonia is pretty low, currently. The goldfish was initially just a starter fish, actually, but he's gone now so his ammonia output won't be an issue. However, I believe that he might have had an ailment that has been in his system since he was purchased, because there were a few times when he had a trail coming off of his abdomen. The tank's been set up for about 2 weeks, now. I don't have a test kit yet, but the ammonia has been treated. __________________ 2.5gal: Empty 5gal: 2 Black Mystery Snails 10gal: 2 Mickey Mouse Platys (1M1F), 1 African Butterfly Fish, 3 Khuli Loaches 29gal: 1 Green Severum, 1 Convict, 3 Bronze Cories 55gal: 5 Bloodfin Tetras, 6 Black Skirt Tetras, 1 Blood Parrot, 1 African Brown Knife, 1 Striped Raphael, 1 Ropefish, 2 Clown Loaches, 1 Yoyo Loach, 1 Angelfish

07-20-2005, 05:07 PM	#4
Bhunsucker Aquarium Advice Freak Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 385	Cycling a [acronym:49441cff17="Freshwater"]FW[/acronym:49441cff17] tropical tank with a goldfish is not a real good idea [acronym:49441cff17="In my opinion"]IMO[/acronym:49441cff17]. You should only cycle with the fish that you want or intend to keep at the end of the cycle. What have you treated your tank with for the ammonia? You really need a test kit so that you can keep up with your cycle and water changes. If you dont have a test kit some of the [acronym:49441cff17="Local Fish Store"]LFS[/acronym:49441cff17] will test your water for free. You might want to try that. __________________ ---------------------------------- "Fly Low Avoid the Radar" 55Gal [acronym:b33c6825e9="Freshwater"]FW[/acronym:b33c6825e9] Aquarium AquaClear 110/500 Filter 45gal Clarity Plus Aquarium Wet/Dry DLS Aquatics Filteration System

07-20-2005, 05:10 PM	#5
Hrafnkel Aquarium Advice FINatic Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Highland, Texas Posts: 521	I'll look into it; and I know now about the goldfish, I just didn't at the time. __________________ 2.5gal: Empty 5gal: 2 Black Mystery Snails 10gal: 2 Mickey Mouse Platys (1M1F), 1 African Butterfly Fish, 3 Khuli Loaches 29gal: 1 Green Severum, 1 Convict, 3 Bronze Cories 55gal: 5 Bloodfin Tetras, 6 Black Skirt Tetras, 1 Blood Parrot, 1 African Brown Knife, 1 Striped Raphael, 1 Ropefish, 2 Clown Loaches, 1 Yoyo Loach, 1 Angelfish

07-20-2005, 05:19 PM	#6
Bhunsucker Aquarium Advice Freak Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 385	What did you put into the water to control the ammonia. This could be an issue when it comes to the tank cycle. It has the potently to hinder the cycle. __________________ ---------------------------------- "Fly Low Avoid the Radar" 55Gal [acronym:b33c6825e9="Freshwater"]FW[/acronym:b33c6825e9] Aquarium AquaClear 110/500 Filter 45gal Clarity Plus Aquarium Wet/Dry DLS Aquatics Filteration System

07-20-2005, 05:21 PM	#7
Hrafnkel Aquarium Advice FINatic Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Highland, Texas Posts: 521	C-100. It's a small pillow-esque object that goes in the filter, supposedly to absorb ammonia. Should I remove it? __________________ 2.5gal: Empty 5gal: 2 Black Mystery Snails 10gal: 2 Mickey Mouse Platys (1M1F), 1 African Butterfly Fish, 3 Khuli Loaches 29gal: 1 Green Severum, 1 Convict, 3 Bronze Cories 55gal: 5 Bloodfin Tetras, 6 Black Skirt Tetras, 1 Blood Parrot, 1 African Brown Knife, 1 Striped Raphael, 1 Ropefish, 2 Clown Loaches, 1 Yoyo Loach, 1 Angelfish

07-20-2005, 05:40 PM	#8
greenmaji Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: May 2005 Location: Central Kentucky Posts: 5,937	the bacteria that is created in the cycle lives off of ammonia, removing the ammonia with a media defeats the point of cycling the tank...

07-20-2005, 06:39 PM	#9
Hrafnkel Aquarium Advice FINatic Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Highland, Texas Posts: 521	...Well, that doesn't help with what should be done. __________________ 2.5gal: Empty 5gal: 2 Black Mystery Snails 10gal: 2 Mickey Mouse Platys (1M1F), 1 African Butterfly Fish, 3 Khuli Loaches 29gal: 1 Green Severum, 1 Convict, 3 Bronze Cories 55gal: 5 Bloodfin Tetras, 6 Black Skirt Tetras, 1 Blood Parrot, 1 African Brown Knife, 1 Striped Raphael, 1 Ropefish, 2 Clown Loaches, 1 Yoyo Loach, 1 Angelfish

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