Dealing with hot tap water in the summer - Page 4 - Aquarium Advice

wabyrd · 06-18-2005, 07:11 PM

Here in Texas we have the same problems in the summertime. The first suggustion I have to offer is to wait until nightfall to do your water changes. That will help some. For my 2 smaller tanks, I limit the water changes to <25% and as long as I don't pump the water in at full blast, it cools a bit as it traverses the Python hose (Regular hose plus 10ft. extension). The tank temperature changes minimally. For the big tank, first let me say that I NEVER drain it below the level that the filters stop pumping water and for a good reason. I also want to note that I keep the tank temp at 80F. Since it would take FOREVER to change the water out running it slowly as I do with the smaller tanks, I run it at a moderate speed. I monitor the temperature with my digital thermometer the whole time. Its probe lives in the reservoir of the [acronym:00f86fe5c8="Hang On Back"]HOB[/acronym:00f86fe5c8] filter. If the water temp starts to rise (I'm talking about increasing 1F) then we add ice to the other filter's reservoir. If it starts to drop too quickly, then we hold on the ice. Our system keeps the temperature usually within 1-1.5 degrees of where it should be. The reason I add it to the filter reservoir is because the running water helps melt the ice faster than just floating it on top. We've been using this method for some time and the fish don't even seem to notice!

Bill
http://www.billandheather.net/the_fish.htm

**Fishyfanatic** · 06-19-2005, 09:36 PM

Fawn- Maybe we had the same issue because I had my 29 [acronym:6b4b058e13="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:6b4b058e13] tank setup for about 8 months. Then all of a sudden, ich. No new additions, no cross contaminations, nothing. No changing of anything except for a partial water change. I don't want to get into this debate, it's just that I had a thread about a month or two ago about this same thing.

greenmaji · 06-19-2005, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Fishyfanatic

Fawn- Maybe we had the same issue because I had my 29 [acronym:8cecfcf05c="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:8cecfcf05c] tank setup for about 8 months. Then all of a sudden, ich. No new additions, no cross contaminations, nothing. No changing of anything except for a partial water change. I don't want to get into this debate, it's just that I had a thread about a month or two ago about this same thing.

Did you heat treat the tank for ich at the begining of the 8 month period?

**Fishyfanatic** · 06-20-2005, 09:04 AM

No I didn't. We transfered fish from the 55 [acronym:c3cf159faf="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:c3cf159faf] tank to the 29 [acronym:c3cf159faf="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:c3cf159faf] tank. The fish didn't have ich before being transferred. Then all of a sudden they got ich. It was really weird. I can't find the thread that I started a while back about it.

greenmaji · 06-20-2005, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fishyfanatic

No I didn't. We transfered fish from the 55 [acronym:50ee568624="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:50ee568624] tank to the 29 [acronym:50ee568624="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:50ee568624] tank. The fish didn't have ich before being transferred. Then all of a sudden they got ich. It was really weird. I can't find the thread that I started a while back about it.

It is my belief that heathy fish can carry ich without showing any signs of it.. Once stressed then the ich will be visible.. thats why I asked if the ich had been killed off.. I really think this is were the confusion about ich comes from.. [acronym:50ee568624="Just My Humble Opinion"]JMHO[/acronym:50ee568624] though..

**Fishyfanatic** · 06-20-2005, 12:25 PM

Ich is an odd disease it seems.

Lots of controversy over it. There was a difference of about 6 degrees between the water that was being added and the temp of the tank during the water change. And that was by sheer accident. The washer was running while I filled the 29 [acronym:508d859b17="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:508d859b17] tank. When the hot water stopped running into the washer, the water faucet water got warmer. I normally don't run laundry while filling tanks, but that particular day it was late in the evening and had tons of laundry to do. Plus, if you flush a toilet across town, you'll get scalded in our shower.

Thankfully we're moving though.

wishbone · 06-20-2005, 03:08 PM

hah.. sorry didn't mean to start the old chicken before the egg argument about ich. It just really boggles me sometimes.

wabyrd: Another good method. Thanks for the advice!

06-18-2005, 07:11 PM	#31
wabyrd Aquarium Advice Freak Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 317 Images: 3	Here in Texas we have the same problems in the summertime. The first suggustion I have to offer is to wait until nightfall to do your water changes. That will help some. For my 2 smaller tanks, I limit the water changes to <25% and as long as I don't pump the water in at full blast, it cools a bit as it traverses the Python hose (Regular hose plus 10ft. extension). The tank temperature changes minimally. For the big tank, first let me say that I NEVER drain it below the level that the filters stop pumping water and for a good reason. I also want to note that I keep the tank temp at 80F. Since it would take FOREVER to change the water out running it slowly as I do with the smaller tanks, I run it at a moderate speed. I monitor the temperature with my digital thermometer the whole time. Its probe lives in the reservoir of the [acronym:00f86fe5c8="Hang On Back"]HOB[/acronym:00f86fe5c8] filter. If the water temp starts to rise (I'm talking about increasing 1F) then we add ice to the other filter's reservoir. If it starts to drop too quickly, then we hold on the ice. Our system keeps the temperature usually within 1-1.5 degrees of where it should be. The reason I add it to the filter reservoir is because the running water helps melt the ice faster than just floating it on top. We've been using this method for some time and the fish don't even seem to notice! Bill http://www.billandheather.net/the_fish.htm __________________ Bill http://www.billandheather.net/the_fish.htm

06-19-2005, 09:36 PM	#32
Fishyfanatic Aquarium Advice Addict Community Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,303 Images: 15	Fawn- Maybe we had the same issue because I had my 29 [acronym:6b4b058e13="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:6b4b058e13] tank setup for about 8 months. Then all of a sudden, ich. No new additions, no cross contaminations, nothing. No changing of anything except for a partial water change. I don't want to get into this debate, it's just that I had a thread about a month or two ago about this same thing. __________________ Vote for Aquarium Advice 10 Gallon Lake Malawi Cichlid Fry 29 Gallon Community 55 Gallon Community 55 Gallon Lake Malawi Cichlid Fry 150 Gallon Lake Malawi Cichlid

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wishbone Aquarium Advice Activist Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 178 Images: 1	hah.. sorry didn't mean to start the old chicken before the egg argument about ich. It just really boggles me sometimes. wabyrd: Another good method. Thanks for the advice! __________________ CLICK HERE to join the Arizona regional forum. MY TANK GALLERY http://www.netghetto.org/albums/albu...0839.thumb.jpg

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06-20-2005, 09:04 AM	#34
Fishyfanatic Aquarium Advice Addict Community Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,303 Images: 15	No I didn't. We transfered fish from the 55 [acronym:c3cf159faf="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:c3cf159faf] tank to the 29 [acronym:c3cf159faf="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:c3cf159faf] tank. The fish didn't have ich before being transferred. Then all of a sudden they got ich. It was really weird. I can't find the thread that I started a while back about it.

06-20-2005, 12:25 PM	#36
Fishyfanatic Aquarium Advice Addict Community Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,303 Images: 15	Ich is an odd disease it seems. Lots of controversy over it. There was a difference of about 6 degrees between the water that was being added and the temp of the tank during the water change. And that was by sheer accident. The washer was running while I filled the 29 [acronym:508d859b17="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:508d859b17] tank. When the hot water stopped running into the washer, the water faucet water got warmer. I normally don't run laundry while filling tanks, but that particular day it was late in the evening and had tons of laundry to do. Plus, if you flush a toilet across town, you'll get scalded in our shower. Thankfully we're moving though.