Dojos and Clowns VS. MTS - Aquarium Advice

hsherman1986 · 09-30-2006, 02:45 AM

Do the mts stand a chance? I have some in my 2 20g, but neither of those have any sort of loaches. I just changed my 55 over to 1/2 sand 1/2 gravel, and would like to add some of the babies that I now have to keep the sand stirred up, but I don't know if they will survive against the dojos and clowns i already have in that tank.

I thought I had heard something once that MTS usually weren't touched by loaches, but figured I would double check just to be sure before I threw a handful of baby mts in there. Don't want to throw them into a death chamber, if that is what it will be for them

TIA!

09-30-2006, 09:29 AM

I have 5 clowns and 2 dojo's. About a month ago I threw in some mts and have not see them since. I dont know if they are buried in the sand or if the loaches got them. But I do know that I never see them.

coldmachineUK · 09-30-2006, 09:40 AM

I'd think they'd be eaten, gradually if not immediately. MTS have hard shells, true, but loaches dont eat shells (large clowns might swallow them and crunch them whole, but other loaches wont), they just suck the snail right out of them.

So, I'd say get a couple of kuhli loaches: they are not a sociable fish so you could keep 2-3, and they will burrow in the sand and keep it aerated.

hc8719 · 09-30-2006, 10:47 AM

you should be snailless pretty fast

09-30-2006, 11:28 AM

Looks like coldmachine is right. I inspected my tank and found an empty MTS shell. Looks like it was sucked right out of it's shell.

hsherman1986 · 09-30-2006, 12:57 PM

ok, i wasn't sure. I was watching the dojo's last night, and they burrow through the sand a little bit, but they dont bury themselves. Will this be enough, or should I sitll get a couple kuhlis?

hc8719 · 09-30-2006, 02:27 PM

kuhlis are pretty useless unless you have tiny snails, if anything, i'd just put in the extra dollar and get another dojo.

and aside from that, kuhlis just hide constantly and never come out

hsherman1986 · 09-30-2006, 04:08 PM

i am confused by your comment, hc8719. I am not trying to rid any of my tanks of snails, or control the population (yet). I am trying to aerate the sand.

One topic of dojo's though, do the golden dojo's get to be the same size as the spotted, or are they smaller or bigger?

hc8719 · 09-30-2006, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by hsherman1986

i am confused by your comment, hc8719. I am not trying to rid any of my tanks of snails, or control the population (yet). I am trying to aerate the sand.

One topic of dojo's though, do the golden dojo's get to be the same size as the spotted, or are they smaller or bigger?

ohh then kuhlis might be the fish for you, i have pebbles, so mine dont dig, but i have ones in sand do it. i kinda despise them, but thats me.

i thought golden dojos might get onlu 8" last time i saw them labeled at the lfs, but i might be wrong, regular dojos get 12" right?

09-30-2006, 02:45 AM	#1
hsherman1986 Aquarium Advice FINatic Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 719	Dojos and Clowns VS. MTS Do the mts stand a chance? I have some in my 2 20g, but neither of those have any sort of loaches. I just changed my 55 over to 1/2 sand 1/2 gravel, and would like to add some of the babies that I now have to keep the sand stirred up, but I don't know if they will survive against the dojos and clowns i already have in that tank. I thought I had heard something once that MTS usually weren't touched by loaches, but figured I would double check just to be sure before I threw a handful of baby mts in there. Don't want to throw them into a death chamber, if that is what it will be for them TIA!

09-30-2006, 09:40 AM	#3
coldmachineUK Aquarium Advice FINatic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: UK Posts: 709 Images: 6	I'd think they'd be eaten, gradually if not immediately. MTS have hard shells, true, but loaches dont eat shells (large clowns might swallow them and crunch them whole, but other loaches wont), they just suck the snail right out of them. So, I'd say get a couple of kuhli loaches: they are not a sociable fish so you could keep 2-3, and they will burrow in the sand and keep it aerated. __________________ For expert advice check out these great sites: The Puffer Forum: http://www.thepufferforum.com \| The Cichlid Forum: http://www.cichlid-forum.com \| Cichlid Room Companion Forum: http://www.cichlidae.com \| Planet Catfish: http://www.planetcatfish.com \| PlecoFanatics: http://www.plecofanatics.com \| Gobioid Research Institite: http://www.gobiidae.com \| Fishbase.org: http://www.fishbase.org ------------------------------------------------------- 36 Gal: Malawi Cichlids \| 36 Gal: Brackish Puffer \| 58 Gal: FW Community \| 20 Gal: FW RTBS Shark \| 10 Gal: FW Breeder Spares: 20 Gal: Former River Conditions \| 8 Gal: Former Fry Tank \| 32G: Former Community Tank

09-30-2006, 10:47 AM	#4
hc8719 Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 1,932	you should be snailless pretty fast __________________ "Atrocities are not less atrocities when they occur in laboratories and are called medical research." George Bernard Shaw

09-30-2006, 02:27 PM	#7
hc8719 Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 1,932	kuhlis are pretty useless unless you have tiny snails, if anything, i'd just put in the extra dollar and get another dojo. and aside from that, kuhlis just hide constantly and never come out __________________ "Atrocities are not less atrocities when they occur in laboratories and are called medical research." George Bernard Shaw

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09-30-2006, 09:29 AM	#2
Guest Posts: n/a	I have 5 clowns and 2 dojo's. About a month ago I threw in some mts and have not see them since. I dont know if they are buried in the sand or if the loaches got them. But I do know that I never see them.

09-30-2006, 11:28 AM	#5
Guest Posts: n/a	Looks like coldmachine is right. I inspected my tank and found an empty MTS shell. Looks like it was sucked right out of it's shell.

09-30-2006, 12:57 PM	#6
hsherman1986 Aquarium Advice FINatic Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 719	ok, i wasn't sure. I was watching the dojo's last night, and they burrow through the sand a little bit, but they dont bury themselves. Will this be enough, or should I sitll get a couple kuhlis?

09-30-2006, 04:08 PM	#8
hsherman1986 Aquarium Advice FINatic Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 719	i am confused by your comment, hc8719. I am not trying to rid any of my tanks of snails, or control the population (yet). I am trying to aerate the sand. One topic of dojo's though, do the golden dojo's get to be the same size as the spotted, or are they smaller or bigger?

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