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MyMonkey · 10-16-2005, 08:42 PM

Well. I allready broke it down. Cleaned everything. Discarded all the green water. My bad on that one. Added all new water. Treated it. Tested the [acronym:b312dcb2dd="power head or Measure of the concentration of hydrogen ions, depending on context"]PH[/acronym:b312dcb2dd] with my Sw test kit. [acronym:b312dcb2dd="power head or Measure of the concentration of hydrogen ions, depending on context"]PH[/acronym:b312dcb2dd] on my tap is high I suppose. I don't use tap for my reef so, I had no idea. Anyway, added some [acronym:b312dcb2dd="power head or Measure of the concentration of hydrogen ions, depending on context"]ph[/acronym:b312dcb2dd] 7.0 stuf fby Seachem. Waiting for it to go down. Want to get those fish out of the bag soon. They don't look so good.

rich311k · 10-16-2005, 08:43 PM

What is the [acronym:db6252e132="power head or Measure of the concentration of hydrogen ions, depending on context"]PH[/acronym:db6252e132] from the tap? Most [acronym:db6252e132="Freshwater"]FW[/acronym:db6252e132] fish are fine with any [acronym:db6252e132="power head or Measure of the concentration of hydrogen ions, depending on context"]PH[/acronym:db6252e132] within reason. Better in my mind than using chemicals and having it bounce around.

MyMonkey · 10-16-2005, 08:53 PM

Darn. How do I get the [acronym:f811c91f3f="power head or Measure of the concentration of hydrogen ions, depending on context"]PH[/acronym:f811c91f3f] to go lower? I have added the prescribed dosage of Seachem Neutral Regulator. Should be closer to 7.0. MOre like 8.2 now. Can I overdose this stuff? Or does it take time? Never had to lower [acronym:f811c91f3f="power head or Measure of the concentration of hydrogen ions, depending on context"]PH[/acronym:f811c91f3f] before.

MyMonkey · 10-16-2005, 08:54 PM

You think they will be ok in 8.2 [acronym:1babb5ef05="power head or Measure of the concentration of hydrogen ions, depending on context"]ph[/acronym:1babb5ef05]?

10-16-2005, 08:54 PM

don't worry about the pH and don't add chemicals.. I have all of my fish in a pH of 7.8 and they are all doing fine.

10-16-2005, 08:55 PM

also, if you add chemicals you will wind up having swings in your pH and that can kill your inhabitants.. also when you do water changes you will have swings. Did you add dechlorinator to the tank to neutralize cholrine from your tapwater?

MyMonkey · 10-16-2005, 09:18 PM

Thanks Ashley. I did add Dechlorinator/conditioner to the Tap. I am not that new to [acronym:c0ab90319d="Freshwater"]FW[/acronym:c0ab90319d]. [acronym:c0ab90319d="Laughing out loud"]LOL[/acronym:c0ab90319d] Thanks again.

Lonewolfblue · 10-16-2005, 09:43 PM

Another thing, if you used [acronym:24a2963706="power head or Measure of the concentration of hydrogen ions, depending on context"]ph[/acronym:24a2963706] 7.0 regulator, it won't do you good. As for the directions on most of those, they say to use [acronym:24a2963706="power head or Measure of the concentration of hydrogen ions, depending on context"]ph[/acronym:24a2963706] down first, then use it to regulate it at 7.0. But like others have said, don't use chemicals. I put some Malaysian driftwood in my tank, and my tap is 8.1, but my tank is 7.0-7.2 since adding the driftwood. Not sure if it's the tanic acids that do it, but it's held constant for 9 months. The only additive I use is dechlorinator in my new water when I do water changes. Other than that, I add nothing else.

DepotFish · 10-16-2005, 09:57 PM

Gosh, for a swordtail and similar fish I'd just put them in a bowl of cool tap water until the tank is clean, they'll be fine. Then I'd just clean and bleach the tank, let it sit full with a heavy dose of dechlor, rinse several times, fill with cool tap water and add the fish back. Those kinds of fish don't need lots of chemicals in their water or any special treatment, they're pretty hardy.

greenmaji · 10-16-2005, 10:00 PM

most any [acronym:90599dcae2="Freshwater"]FW[/acronym:90599dcae2] fish can live in water under 9 [acronym:90599dcae2="power head or Measure of the concentration of hydrogen ions, depending on context"]ph[/acronym:90599dcae2].. so 8.whatever is fine..
chemicals dont really help, what makes your water hard is [acronym:90599dcae2="Carbonate Hardness"]KH[/acronym:90599dcae2] and the chemicals do nothing to remove it.
that said.. [acronym:90599dcae2="Freshwater"]FW[/acronym:90599dcae2] fish dont need any particular [acronym:90599dcae2="power head or Measure of the concentration of hydrogen ions, depending on context"]PH[/acronym:90599dcae2] so not messing with it is the best option..

10-16-2005, 08:42 PM	#11
MyMonkey Aquarium Advice Activist Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 111 Images: 1	Well. I allready broke it down. Cleaned everything. Discarded all the green water. My bad on that one. Added all new water. Treated it. Tested the [acronym:b312dcb2dd="power head or Measure of the concentration of hydrogen ions, depending on context"]PH[/acronym:b312dcb2dd] with my Sw test kit. [acronym:b312dcb2dd="power head or Measure of the concentration of hydrogen ions, depending on context"]PH[/acronym:b312dcb2dd] on my tap is high I suppose. I don't use tap for my reef so, I had no idea. Anyway, added some [acronym:b312dcb2dd="power head or Measure of the concentration of hydrogen ions, depending on context"]ph[/acronym:b312dcb2dd] 7.0 stuf fby Seachem. Waiting for it to go down. Want to get those fish out of the bag soon. They don't look so good. __________________ 58 Gallon [acronym:37b4566f57="Saltwater"]SW[/acronym:37b4566f57], 65 pounds of [acronym:37b4566f57="Live rock"]LR[/acronym:37b4566f57], 2 inch sand bed, 198 Watts of [acronym:37b4566f57="Power compact fluorescent"]PC[/acronym:37b4566f57], Emperor 400, AquaC Remora, Maxi-Jet 900 Stock: Pair of Amphiprion ocellaris, One Chrysiptera parasema, 3 Green Chromis, 1 Royal Gramma, Yellow Clown Gobie, Kole Tang, Mandarin, Button Polyps, Folded Brain Coral, Hawiian Feather dusters, Orange Linkia Star, Hair Algae, SkunkCleaner Shrimp 4 Clibanarius vittatus Hermit Crabs, a few Blue Legged Hermits, a few red legged hermits, one HUGE Turbo Snail and a few Bumblebee snails.

10-16-2005, 08:53 PM	#13
MyMonkey Aquarium Advice Activist Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 111 Images: 1	Darn. How do I get the [acronym:f811c91f3f="power head or Measure of the concentration of hydrogen ions, depending on context"]PH[/acronym:f811c91f3f] to go lower? I have added the prescribed dosage of Seachem Neutral Regulator. Should be closer to 7.0. MOre like 8.2 now. Can I overdose this stuff? Or does it take time? Never had to lower [acronym:f811c91f3f="power head or Measure of the concentration of hydrogen ions, depending on context"]PH[/acronym:f811c91f3f] before. __________________ 58 Gallon [acronym:37b4566f57="Saltwater"]SW[/acronym:37b4566f57], 65 pounds of [acronym:37b4566f57="Live rock"]LR[/acronym:37b4566f57], 2 inch sand bed, 198 Watts of [acronym:37b4566f57="Power compact fluorescent"]PC[/acronym:37b4566f57], Emperor 400, AquaC Remora, Maxi-Jet 900 Stock: Pair of Amphiprion ocellaris, One Chrysiptera parasema, 3 Green Chromis, 1 Royal Gramma, Yellow Clown Gobie, Kole Tang, Mandarin, Button Polyps, Folded Brain Coral, Hawiian Feather dusters, Orange Linkia Star, Hair Algae, SkunkCleaner Shrimp 4 Clibanarius vittatus Hermit Crabs, a few Blue Legged Hermits, a few red legged hermits, one HUGE Turbo Snail and a few Bumblebee snails.

10-16-2005, 08:54 PM	#14
MyMonkey Aquarium Advice Activist Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 111 Images: 1	You think they will be ok in 8.2 [acronym:1babb5ef05="power head or Measure of the concentration of hydrogen ions, depending on context"]ph[/acronym:1babb5ef05]? __________________ 58 Gallon [acronym:37b4566f57="Saltwater"]SW[/acronym:37b4566f57], 65 pounds of [acronym:37b4566f57="Live rock"]LR[/acronym:37b4566f57], 2 inch sand bed, 198 Watts of [acronym:37b4566f57="Power compact fluorescent"]PC[/acronym:37b4566f57], Emperor 400, AquaC Remora, Maxi-Jet 900 Stock: Pair of Amphiprion ocellaris, One Chrysiptera parasema, 3 Green Chromis, 1 Royal Gramma, Yellow Clown Gobie, Kole Tang, Mandarin, Button Polyps, Folded Brain Coral, Hawiian Feather dusters, Orange Linkia Star, Hair Algae, SkunkCleaner Shrimp 4 Clibanarius vittatus Hermit Crabs, a few Blue Legged Hermits, a few red legged hermits, one HUGE Turbo Snail and a few Bumblebee snails.

10-16-2005, 09:18 PM	#17
MyMonkey Aquarium Advice Activist Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 111 Images: 1	Thanks Ashley. I did add Dechlorinator/conditioner to the Tap. I am not that new to [acronym:c0ab90319d="Freshwater"]FW[/acronym:c0ab90319d]. [acronym:c0ab90319d="Laughing out loud"]LOL[/acronym:c0ab90319d] Thanks again. __________________ 58 Gallon [acronym:37b4566f57="Saltwater"]SW[/acronym:37b4566f57], 65 pounds of [acronym:37b4566f57="Live rock"]LR[/acronym:37b4566f57], 2 inch sand bed, 198 Watts of [acronym:37b4566f57="Power compact fluorescent"]PC[/acronym:37b4566f57], Emperor 400, AquaC Remora, Maxi-Jet 900 Stock: Pair of Amphiprion ocellaris, One Chrysiptera parasema, 3 Green Chromis, 1 Royal Gramma, Yellow Clown Gobie, Kole Tang, Mandarin, Button Polyps, Folded Brain Coral, Hawiian Feather dusters, Orange Linkia Star, Hair Algae, SkunkCleaner Shrimp 4 Clibanarius vittatus Hermit Crabs, a few Blue Legged Hermits, a few red legged hermits, one HUGE Turbo Snail and a few Bumblebee snails.

10-16-2005, 09:43 PM	#18
Lonewolfblue Planted Geek Community Mentor Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Wenatchee, WA Posts: 7,871 Images: 7	Another thing, if you used [acronym:24a2963706="power head or Measure of the concentration of hydrogen ions, depending on context"]ph[/acronym:24a2963706] 7.0 regulator, it won't do you good. As for the directions on most of those, they say to use [acronym:24a2963706="power head or Measure of the concentration of hydrogen ions, depending on context"]ph[/acronym:24a2963706] down first, then use it to regulate it at 7.0. But like others have said, don't use chemicals. I put some Malaysian driftwood in my tank, and my tap is 8.1, but my tank is 7.0-7.2 since adding the driftwood. Not sure if it's the tanic acids that do it, but it's held constant for 9 months. The only additive I use is dechlorinator in my new water when I do water changes. Other than that, I add nothing else. __________________ 26G Medium Planted Community - 65W CF Lighting - Emperor 280 Bio-Wheel - Established Feb 2004 55G Aggressive Community - Filstar XP3 - Established Dec 2005 75G Heavily Planted - Pressurized CO2, 520W Lighting, Filstar XP3 with spraybar - Established Feb 2006 29G Planted - 130W Lighting, Filstar XP2 with spraybar - Established May 2006 5 10G Tanks - Various setups - Tanks Established May-Sep 2006. 3 currently empty. 5.5G Crypt/Java Fern Tank - Established Oct 2006 My 29G Thread : http://www.aquariumadvice.com/viewtopic.php?t=78469 My 75G Thread : http://www.aquariumadvice.com/viewtopic.php?t=70764 My 75G Makeover Thread: http://www.aquariumadvice.com/viewtopic.php?t=87691

10-16-2005, 08:43 PM	#12
rich311k Aquarium Advice Addict Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 8,972 Images: 35	What is the [acronym:db6252e132="power head or Measure of the concentration of hydrogen ions, depending on context"]PH[/acronym:db6252e132] from the tap? Most [acronym:db6252e132="Freshwater"]FW[/acronym:db6252e132] fish are fine with any [acronym:db6252e132="power head or Measure of the concentration of hydrogen ions, depending on context"]PH[/acronym:db6252e132] within reason. Better in my mind than using chemicals and having it bounce around.

10-16-2005, 08:54 PM	#15
Guest Posts: n/a	don't worry about the pH and don't add chemicals.. I have all of my fish in a pH of 7.8 and they are all doing fine.

10-16-2005, 08:55 PM	#16
Guest Posts: n/a	also, if you add chemicals you will wind up having swings in your pH and that can kill your inhabitants.. also when you do water changes you will have swings. Did you add dechlorinator to the tank to neutralize cholrine from your tapwater?

10-16-2005, 09:57 PM	#19
DepotFish Aquarium Advice FINatic Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 871 Images: 4	Gosh, for a swordtail and similar fish I'd just put them in a bowl of cool tap water until the tank is clean, they'll be fine. Then I'd just clean and bleach the tank, let it sit full with a heavy dose of dechlor, rinse several times, fill with cool tap water and add the fish back. Those kinds of fish don't need lots of chemicals in their water or any special treatment, they're pretty hardy. __________________ Anybody who's seen the personality of fish has had their minds and hearts opened to a whole new world.

10-16-2005, 10:00 PM	#20
greenmaji Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: May 2005 Location: Central Kentucky Posts: 5,937	most any [acronym:90599dcae2="Freshwater"]FW[/acronym:90599dcae2] fish can live in water under 9 [acronym:90599dcae2="power head or Measure of the concentration of hydrogen ions, depending on context"]ph[/acronym:90599dcae2].. so 8.whatever is fine.. chemicals dont really help, what makes your water hard is [acronym:90599dcae2="Carbonate Hardness"]KH[/acronym:90599dcae2] and the chemicals do nothing to remove it. that said.. [acronym:90599dcae2="Freshwater"]FW[/acronym:90599dcae2] fish dont need any particular [acronym:90599dcae2="power head or Measure of the concentration of hydrogen ions, depending on context"]PH[/acronym:90599dcae2] so not messing with it is the best option..

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