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Old 12-03-2003, 08:46 AM   #1
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"GLOFISH" are coming!!!

I thought you'd all appreciate some of the latest info on this
subject..... for the pro's and the con's:

I will have some in my store as of tomorrow to actually see
what this is!! I'm in a neutral position on the subject myself;
but as a retailer, I felt it was necessary to get a "first-hand"
look at this!!

I will post some pix here later once they are in!!




See ya all later!!

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Old 12-03-2003, 08:54 AM   #2
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Heh, saw and commented on your post over at fishgeeks. While I still have reservations about these guys, I'll be interested to see how they do.

**And keep in mind folks, Bernie owns his own [acronym:27a6e8215a="Local Fish Store"]lfs[/acronym:27a6e8215a]; before flaming him for carrying them remember he has to REMAIN in biz. If this is what folks want, this is what they're going to get. If you have a prob with the genetically modified fish, the best thing you can do is educate others; especially folks who don't have the info we do.
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Old 12-03-2003, 09:23 AM   #3
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Thanks, for the help, there... Ally!!!

Yes, as in the past with "painted stuff" which I refuse to carry!!! These "seem"
different and so I felt the obligation to check it out first-hand!!

As I said, I'm neutral on this at present!! My main concern right-off will be
just "how the fish will look under average tank conditions" or will there need
to be special equipment to actually "see" any diff, in order to warrant the
price. Which is looking to be about $ 5.99 retail here. Probably higher elsewhere.

I'll keep all posted.

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Old 12-03-2003, 11:08 AM   #4
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The ones I saw last night just looked "salmon" colored where the zebras are normally dark bluish. They were under normal lighting, and didn't look spectacular. Would definitely be curious to see them under [acronym:bc8c38c883="Ultra Violet"]UV[/acronym:bc8c38c883] or black light however.
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Old 12-03-2003, 11:13 AM   #5
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http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science....ap/index.html
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Old 12-03-2003, 11:52 AM   #6
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The fluorescent fish, however, are even less tolerant of cold water than natural zebra fish and are unlikely to survive if they escape, the Fish and Game Department said in recommending an exemption. Independent researchers also found that no harm would come from eating the fish.
Yummy! Would you sell the Coctail sauce right next to the Glofish?

This is the same debate as painted glass fish. Is it probably a little cruel for our entertainment...yes...but get over it people, there are more important debates in life (ie: Bears and Packers this Sunday).
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Old 12-03-2003, 11:58 AM   #7
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I love this qoute from the CNN article:

"Yorktown Technologies President Alan Blake has given assurances that GloFish are safe even if flushed down the toilet, dumped into the local swimming hole or eaten by a house cat or a 2-year-old."

Who the heck volunteered their 2 year old to test that? :P
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Old 12-03-2003, 12:44 PM   #8
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I don't really have a problem with them. I would prefer that the same energy went into finding cures for cancer, AIDS, etc., but if people want to spend money developing a "better" aquarium fish, so be it. I don't object to it the way I do to the painted fish, which have to have invasive procedures performed on them. These zebras reproduce naturally and live lives similar to the other fish we keep, so it does not bother me too much, other than that I don't think the hobby needs any new and improved fish.
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Old 12-03-2003, 01:08 PM   #9
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I'm Glad to see that science has taken this hobby so far. As for painted fish I think everone dislikes them. I can't remember how many Non-fish hobbiest's faces dropped when I told them how they get that color. Anyway I'm usually the type of person who likes things natural. But as others earlier said in this post it's not the same as painted fish. It's more like a step in the right direction I think. I want my fish to be happy. If this type of genetic engineering can lead to colorful fish, then im sure it can lead to hardy ones that live happier as well. I'm also very Conservative with politics I.E Taxes, Abortion, IRAQ!. So This type of science isnt usually on my Positive side. THink of it this way. This is where We humans take the Next step in SCience. Paving the way for disease cures and most inportant. A safer , Easier and Nicer looking marine habitat. THanks for the article first time i have heard of the issue.


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Old 12-03-2003, 01:46 PM   #10
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Here's some more perspective on the issue for those who are truly concerned:

Excerpt from PET PRODUCT NEWS Sept 2003 issue:




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