Gouramis and Angel Fish - Aquarium Advice

lyquidphyre · 02-06-2004, 03:05 AM

My boyfriend wanted me to ask ya'll a few questions for him.

He has a 29 [acronym:799c455eed="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:799c455eed] with a medium Angel Fish and two Neon Blue Gouramis. He is curious if there is more of a top dwelling fish he can add to his tank. Because those three hide and his tank looks empty.

Im aware those fish are semi-aggressive and the angel fish gets stressed fairly easy with other types of fish (or so Ive been told).
What else could he put in there that would work fish and size wise? I think he kinda wants a small "community" type fish or something.

Also, he wanted me to ask you about Puffers. Now, I know ive asked about puffers before and im sorry if my next question makes you smack ur forehead and go "Gosh, ive told this girl a 100 times.."
He wants a puffer. He wants to know if he can put a medium puffer with those three fish. And if not, would a couple of dwarf puffers work?
I wouldn't think a medium puffer would work, but possibly the dwarf, but that could upset the angel fish. But, I said I would ask for him.

Thanx in advance =o)

Fruitbat · 02-06-2004, 08:43 AM

lyquidphyre...

Hatchetfish will do reasonably well with Angels and Gouramis and they spend virtually all of their time at the surface of the tank. Since Hatchetfish are true 'flying fish' it is VERY important to keep them in a covered tank at all times...otherwise you'll find them on the floor in no time.

Puffers are NOT good tank-mates for Angels and gouramis. All puffers, including the dwarf puffer, are fin-nippers and the long fins of the Angelfish and the extended ventral fins (look like feelers) of the gouramis would probably be too tempting. The dwarf puffer isn't as bad as the other types of puffer but personally I wouldn't trust them either.

02-06-2004, 10:09 AM

I agree on hatchet fish for top-dwellers. Silver hatchets or marble hatchets, either would work, the marbles stay about an inch, the silvers maybey a bit over 2 inches. If he decides to get Hatchets, a very tight hood is a MUST. they are jumpers and will end up on the floor if given any space at all to get out of the lid/hood.

Also agree 100% with Fruitbat on the puffers, he hit it dead-on.

krap101 · 02-06-2004, 11:06 AM

can hatchets school since they only get up to 1 inch?

02-06-2004, 12:17 PM

Quote:

can hatchets school since they only get up to 1 inch?

Well, size has nothing to do with schooling behavior. Neons school, and they are small, and some very large fish school as well.

Hatchets will sometimes school, and sometimes just roam around by themselves.

krap101 · 02-06-2004, 02:51 PM

for my 10 gallon/or 5 gallon i wanna get sum like neons or sum kinda schooling fish (by the time i get em ill prolly not have my pleco anymore and ill have 2 gourami's (are female gouramis that rare??)

ferret · 02-06-2004, 02:52 PM

Neon tetras and glow-light tetras are two fish that stay less than an inch and school. They're suitable for smaller tanks. I keep 5 neons in a 3 gallon on my desk at work.

lyquidphyre · 02-06-2004, 05:36 PM

Thanks! I figured puffers were a no-no but if I didn't ask I would get the "why didn't u ask about puffers"

I think we might end up buying a small tank especially for puffers =o)

krap101 · 02-06-2004, 07:01 PM

dang either u people are rich or u spend all ur money on fish (no offence) i wish i could too but my dad wont let me

lyquidphyre · 02-06-2004, 07:10 PM

Nope, im a poor college student. I don't spend all my money on fish but I find good deals when I can and get the fish I want when they are on sale and what not.

Besides, a small tank set up is only like $30

02-06-2004, 03:05 AM	#1
lyquidphyre Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: McKinney, Tx Posts: 2,860 Images: 21	Gouramis and Angel Fish My boyfriend wanted me to ask ya'll a few questions for him. He has a 29 [acronym:799c455eed="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:799c455eed] with a medium Angel Fish and two Neon Blue Gouramis. He is curious if there is more of a top dwelling fish he can add to his tank. Because those three hide and his tank looks empty. Im aware those fish are semi-aggressive and the angel fish gets stressed fairly easy with other types of fish (or so Ive been told). What else could he put in there that would work fish and size wise? I think he kinda wants a small "community" type fish or something. Also, he wanted me to ask you about Puffers. Now, I know ive asked about puffers before and im sorry if my next question makes you smack ur forehead and go "Gosh, ive told this girl a 100 times.." He wants a puffer. He wants to know if he can put a medium puffer with those three fish. And if not, would a couple of dwarf puffers work? I wouldn't think a medium puffer would work, but possibly the dwarf, but that could upset the angel fish. But, I said I would ask for him. Thanx in advance =o)

02-06-2004, 08:43 AM	#2
Fruitbat Aquarium Advice Addict Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Garland,Texas Posts: 1,818 Images: 30	lyquidphyre... Hatchetfish will do reasonably well with Angels and Gouramis and they spend virtually all of their time at the surface of the tank. Since Hatchetfish are true 'flying fish' it is VERY important to keep them in a covered tank at all times...otherwise you'll find them on the floor in no time. Puffers are NOT good tank-mates for Angels and gouramis. All puffers, including the dwarf puffer, are fin-nippers and the long fins of the Angelfish and the extended ventral fins (look like feelers) of the gouramis would probably be too tempting. The dwarf puffer isn't as bad as the other types of puffer but personally I wouldn't trust them either. __________________ Loaches: Botia almorhae, B. kubotai, B. striata, Noemacheilus triangularis, Schistura sp.aff.nicholsi, S. vinciguerre, Sinibotia robusta, Vaillantella maassi Bichirs: Polypterus senegalus, P. senegalus (albino), P. delhezi, P. sp. 'Congo', P. palmas polli, P.weeksii, P. ornatipinnis, P. palmas buettikoferi, P. retropinnis, P. endlicheri congicus, Polypterus bichir lapradei, P. palmas palmas, Erpetoichthys calabaricus Anabantids: Ctenopoma acutirostre, Ct. ocellatum, Ct. oxyrhynchum, Ct. kingsleyae, Microctenopoma ansorgii, Mct. fasciolatum, Trichogaster trichopterus, Belontia signata, B. hasselti, Anabas testudineus, Macropodus opercularis, Betta splendens Catfish: Dekeyseria sp. (L-052)Sturiosoma panamense, Hypancistrus inspector (L-201), Synodontis eupterus, Synodontis nigrita, Synodontis brichardi, Synodontis soloni, Anaspidoglanis macrostoma Barbs/Rasboras: Capoeta tetrazona, Rasbora borapetensis, Labeo cyclorhynchus Tetras: Phenacogrammus interruptus Other: Xenomystus nigri, Papyrocranus afer, Pantodon buchholzi, Oxymormyrus boulengeri, Protopterus annectens andPhractolaemus ansorgei

02-06-2004, 11:06 AM	#4
krap101 Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Roscoe, IL Posts: 3,824 Images: 12	can hatchets school since they only get up to 1 inch? __________________ Wizards first rule-People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true. Wizards second rule-The greatest harm can result from the best intentions. Wizards third rule-Passion rules reason. Wizards fourth rule-There is magic in forgiveness the magic to heal! In the forgiveness you grant, and more so in the forgiveness you receive. Wizards fifth rule-Mind what people do, not only what they say, for deeds will betray a lie. Wizards sixth rule-The only sovereign you can allow to rule you is reason. Wizards seventh rule-Life is the future, not the past Wizards eighth rule-Deserve victory. Wizards ninth rule-Contradictions don't exist, in whole or in part.

02-06-2004, 02:51 PM	#6
krap101 Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Roscoe, IL Posts: 3,824 Images: 12	for my 10 gallon/or 5 gallon i wanna get sum like neons or sum kinda schooling fish (by the time i get em ill prolly not have my pleco anymore and ill have 2 gourami's (are female gouramis that rare??) __________________ Wizards first rule-People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true. Wizards second rule-The greatest harm can result from the best intentions. Wizards third rule-Passion rules reason. Wizards fourth rule-There is magic in forgiveness the magic to heal! In the forgiveness you grant, and more so in the forgiveness you receive. Wizards fifth rule-Mind what people do, not only what they say, for deeds will betray a lie. Wizards sixth rule-The only sovereign you can allow to rule you is reason. Wizards seventh rule-Life is the future, not the past Wizards eighth rule-Deserve victory. Wizards ninth rule-Contradictions don't exist, in whole or in part.

02-06-2004, 02:52 PM	#7
ferret Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,377	Neon tetras and glow-light tetras are two fish that stay less than an inch and school. They're suitable for smaller tanks. I keep 5 neons in a 3 gallon on my desk at work. __________________ Gamer? Like Counter-strike, World of Warcraft, or just games in general? Visit http://www.gamehavoc.com/

02-06-2004, 10:09 AM	#3
Guest Posts: n/a	I agree on hatchet fish for top-dwellers. Silver hatchets or marble hatchets, either would work, the marbles stay about an inch, the silvers maybey a bit over 2 inches. If he decides to get Hatchets, a very tight hood is a MUST. they are jumpers and will end up on the floor if given any space at all to get out of the lid/hood. Also agree 100% with Fruitbat on the puffers, he hit it dead-on.

02-06-2004, 05:36 PM	#8
lyquidphyre Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: McKinney, Tx Posts: 2,860 Images: 21	Thanks! I figured puffers were a no-no but if I didn't ask I would get the "why didn't u ask about puffers" I think we might end up buying a small tank especially for puffers =o) __________________ Have cats? Check out AA's sister site designed for our feline friends

02-06-2004, 07:01 PM	#9
krap101 Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Roscoe, IL Posts: 3,824 Images: 12	dang either u people are rich or u spend all ur money on fish (no offence) i wish i could too but my dad wont let me __________________ Wizards first rule-People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true. Wizards second rule-The greatest harm can result from the best intentions. Wizards third rule-Passion rules reason. Wizards fourth rule-There is magic in forgiveness the magic to heal! In the forgiveness you grant, and more so in the forgiveness you receive. Wizards fifth rule-Mind what people do, not only what they say, for deeds will betray a lie. Wizards sixth rule-The only sovereign you can allow to rule you is reason. Wizards seventh rule-Life is the future, not the past Wizards eighth rule-Deserve victory. Wizards ninth rule-Contradictions don't exist, in whole or in part.

02-06-2004, 07:10 PM	#10
lyquidphyre Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: McKinney, Tx Posts: 2,860 Images: 21	Nope, im a poor college student. I don't spend all my money on fish but I find good deals when I can and get the fish I want when they are on sale and what not. Besides, a small tank set up is only like $30 __________________ Have cats? Check out AA's sister site designed for our feline friends

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