HELP!! Murky water - Aquarium Advice

Ady1397 · 07-12-2004, 08:08 PM

I cant seem to clear up the water in my goldfish tank. It's not a bacterial bloom. I've checked the ammonia, nitrate, nitrites, pH, and general hardness of the water. Everything keeps coming out fine. There is plenty of filtration and the fish are doing great. I've done water changes since but they haven't really helped. I do have lava rock in the filters. Would that give a tint to the water? What could be wrong? Please help!

72 [acronym:3a7b8d720e="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:3a7b8d720e]. tank, Fluval 404, Eheim pro II, 2 Whisper 40

krap101 · 07-12-2004, 08:56 PM

what color is the "murk"?

krap101 · 07-12-2004, 08:56 PM

oh and do you have driftwood/peat that'll get it to a orangish/yellow color.

TankGirl · 07-12-2004, 10:37 PM

What are the exact readings of your ammonia, nitrite and nitrate? That will be helpful to know, and also how long has the tank been set up?

Lava rock won't add a tint to the water at all.

Are the goldies rooting around a lot in the gravel, stirring up muck, possibly?

grimlock3000 · 07-12-2004, 10:40 PM

How many fish are in the tank? How often do they get fed?

Ady1397 · 07-12-2004, 11:51 PM

The murk is a yellowish green.
there is nothing in the tank except the fish...
no gravel , no drift wood, no decorations, nothing..bare tank

I changed most of the water over the past week and the murk is still there

could it bee an algea infestation.. the tank walls seem to be clean and there is no visible sign of it

grimlock3000 · 07-13-2004, 12:09 AM

Quote:

there is nothing in the tank except the fish...
no gravel , no drift wood, no decorations, nothing..bare tank

That must be very exciting for the fish.

krap101 · 07-13-2004, 01:07 AM

lol yeah. get some [acronym:c713aa16ab="Plastic pipe"]pvc[/acronym:c713aa16ab] the 3 way or something. your fish'll love u.

BrianNY · 07-13-2004, 07:05 AM

Well, as everyone knows I keep barebottom discus tanks because it is easier to keep the whole tank clean. Goldfish might be a species that benefit from smooth gravel. They love to pick it up and spit it out.

Here's what I think is happening Ady

. Goldfish produce alot of waste. The solid waste is dissolving and becoming part of the water column. To get a sparkling clear tank, you need to be changing more water. I'd suggest 25% a day until you see an improvement.

Ady1397 · 07-13-2004, 06:25 PM

The tank is bare because of the problem we're having. We usually have large smooth river stones covering the bottom. We do have a full tank and they are well fed but I don't think it's too much. There is no peat in the tank and we increased water changes to 25% every other day. I will increase changes to every day to see if that helps. The "murk" is a yellowish whiteish cloudiness. Thanks everyone who's written so far and I look forward to getting more advice from you guys!

07-12-2004, 08:08 PM	#1
Ady1397 Aquarium Advice Regular Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: NewYork-NewYork Posts: 96 Images: 10	HELP!! Murky water I cant seem to clear up the water in my goldfish tank. It's not a bacterial bloom. I've checked the ammonia, nitrate, nitrites, pH, and general hardness of the water. Everything keeps coming out fine. There is plenty of filtration and the fish are doing great. I've done water changes since but they haven't really helped. I do have lava rock in the filters. Would that give a tint to the water? What could be wrong? Please help! 72 [acronym:3a7b8d720e="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:3a7b8d720e]. tank, Fluval 404, Eheim pro II, 2 Whisper 40

07-12-2004, 08:56 PM	#2
krap101 Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Roscoe, IL Posts: 3,824 Images: 12	what color is the "murk"? __________________ Wizards first rule-People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true. Wizards second rule-The greatest harm can result from the best intentions. Wizards third rule-Passion rules reason. Wizards fourth rule-There is magic in forgiveness the magic to heal! In the forgiveness you grant, and more so in the forgiveness you receive. Wizards fifth rule-Mind what people do, not only what they say, for deeds will betray a lie. Wizards sixth rule-The only sovereign you can allow to rule you is reason. Wizards seventh rule-Life is the future, not the past Wizards eighth rule-Deserve victory. Wizards ninth rule-Contradictions don't exist, in whole or in part.

07-12-2004, 08:56 PM	#3
krap101 Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Roscoe, IL Posts: 3,824 Images: 12	oh and do you have driftwood/peat that'll get it to a orangish/yellow color. __________________ Wizards first rule-People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true. Wizards second rule-The greatest harm can result from the best intentions. Wizards third rule-Passion rules reason. Wizards fourth rule-There is magic in forgiveness the magic to heal! In the forgiveness you grant, and more so in the forgiveness you receive. Wizards fifth rule-Mind what people do, not only what they say, for deeds will betray a lie. Wizards sixth rule-The only sovereign you can allow to rule you is reason. Wizards seventh rule-Life is the future, not the past Wizards eighth rule-Deserve victory. Wizards ninth rule-Contradictions don't exist, in whole or in part.

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TankGirl Aquarium Advice Addict Moderator Emeritus Join Date: May 2003 Location: Richmond VA Posts: 8,279 Images: 16	What are the exact readings of your ammonia, nitrite and nitrate? That will be helpful to know, and also how long has the tank been set up? Lava rock won't add a tint to the water at all. Are the goldies rooting around a lot in the gravel, stirring up muck, possibly? __________________ TG Central Virginians click here and join the Regional Forum! View My Gallery Here

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07-12-2004, 11:51 PM	#6
Ady1397 Aquarium Advice Regular Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: NewYork-NewYork Posts: 96 Images: 10	The murk is a yellowish green. there is nothing in the tank except the fish... no gravel , no drift wood, no decorations, nothing..bare tank I changed most of the water over the past week and the murk is still there could it bee an algea infestation.. the tank walls seem to be clean and there is no visible sign of it __________________ 72 Gal Bow Black-1 Fluval 404-1 Eheim 2128-with:5-3inch Rhyukins/6-2inch Rhyukins/1-3inch Oranda --------------------------------------- 1 Plexi Glass Terrarium-2ft x 2ft x 4feet tall-Waterfall-Planted-with:4-9to11inch TokayGeckos/1-4inch WhitespotGecko/1-5inch GoldenGeko/1-4inch MarbleGeko/1-2inch HouseGeko --------------------------------------- 1 Apartment 1 Bedroom 1000SqFt with:2-130to200Lb Humans (Jess+Andy)&2-12Lb Cats Cracker+Jack

07-13-2004, 01:07 AM	#8
krap101 Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Roscoe, IL Posts: 3,824 Images: 12	lol yeah. get some [acronym:c713aa16ab="Plastic pipe"]pvc[/acronym:c713aa16ab] the 3 way or something. your fish'll love u. __________________ Wizards first rule-People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true. Wizards second rule-The greatest harm can result from the best intentions. Wizards third rule-Passion rules reason. Wizards fourth rule-There is magic in forgiveness the magic to heal! In the forgiveness you grant, and more so in the forgiveness you receive. Wizards fifth rule-Mind what people do, not only what they say, for deeds will betray a lie. Wizards sixth rule-The only sovereign you can allow to rule you is reason. Wizards seventh rule-Life is the future, not the past Wizards eighth rule-Deserve victory. Wizards ninth rule-Contradictions don't exist, in whole or in part.

07-13-2004, 07:05 AM	#9
BrianNY Aquarium Advice Addict Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NY Posts: 4,259 Images: 18	Well, as everyone knows I keep barebottom discus tanks because it is easier to keep the whole tank clean. Goldfish might be a species that benefit from smooth gravel. They love to pick it up and spit it out. Here's what I think is happening Ady . Goldfish produce alot of waste. The solid waste is dissolving and becoming part of the water column. To get a sparkling clear tank, you need to be changing more water. I'd suggest 25% a day until you see an improvement.

07-13-2004, 06:25 PM	#10
Ady1397 Aquarium Advice Regular Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: NewYork-NewYork Posts: 96 Images: 10	The tank is bare because of the problem we're having. We usually have large smooth river stones covering the bottom. We do have a full tank and they are well fed but I don't think it's too much. There is no peat in the tank and we increased water changes to 25% every other day. I will increase changes to every day to see if that helps. The "murk" is a yellowish whiteish cloudiness. Thanks everyone who's written so far and I look forward to getting more advice from you guys! __________________ 72 Gal Bow Black-1 Fluval 404-1 Eheim 2128-with:5-3inch Rhyukins/6-2inch Rhyukins/1-3inch Oranda --------------------------------------- 1 Plexi Glass Terrarium-2ft x 2ft x 4feet tall-Waterfall-Planted-with:4-9to11inch TokayGeckos/1-4inch WhitespotGecko/1-5inch GoldenGeko/1-4inch MarbleGeko/1-2inch HouseGeko --------------------------------------- 1 Apartment 1 Bedroom 1000SqFt with:2-130to200Lb Humans (Jess+Andy)&2-12Lb Cats Cracker+Jack

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