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Old 02-09-2004, 09:31 AM   #11
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[sigh] Jeez Louise....another fish move...I swear, my entire life seems to revolve around fish movement.

She'll be okay as the lone guppy in the big tank, right? Or should I just move ALL the guppies from the 5 gallon and put something else in the 5 gallon...maybe mollies or a school of tetras?
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Old 02-09-2004, 09:36 AM   #12
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I'm not sure what guppies require for.. er.. happiness. They're not EXACTLY schooling fish.. I had a couple for a while, ended up with a 10 gallon full of 25-30+ fry. They somehow got in the oscar tank though

I don't think mollies would be good for a 5 gallon, believe they get a bit large for that, but you could easily do 6-8 neon tetras in such a tank.
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Old 02-09-2004, 09:44 AM   #13
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yup, you can move her. And don't worry you'll soon have her company: fry. Take no mollies, they are too large for a 5gal as ferret said. School of tetras or rasboras (heteramorpha) should be fine.
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Old 02-09-2004, 05:00 PM   #14
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I don't think it's going to matter much...Laura seems to be having some problems. It never fails that when I buy new fish, at least one doesn't survive for more than a few days. The new additions from Petsmart have already been dwindled by a catfish who is heading back to the store for replacement this weekend. If Laura the guppy succumbs, she'll be heading back for a refund, but I will not buy a female. I'll risk a Walmart trip to get a guppy if I have to so I can just have males.

Anyway, she seems to be surface hovering and my daughter seems to think she's lying on her side a lot. I don't know...the others seem absolutely fine in the tank and the water levels are okay. I did throw in some salt today because I know guppies like salt.

Now, any suggestions on reducing the brightness of the light in the 20 gallon. It is VERY bright! Plants, I guess?
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Old 02-09-2004, 05:06 PM   #15
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hmm, guppies do *not* like salt, wrong idea, I am sorry. It won't hurt too much on the short term though. I think you should forget about adding salt. Unless you have brackish water fishes, that should not be necessary to have salt unless you really want to treat a fish.

If she's lying on her side it might be a swim bladder problem, probably due to some secondary infection enhanced by stress (of travel and of harassment).

Reduce brightness: buy a smaller wattage for your new fluorescent tube! Plants will not reduce brightness (unless you buy a lot of surface plants), but they will love the brightness.
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Old 02-10-2004, 08:46 AM   #16
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Well, I moved Laura into the 20 gallon last night, but it was apparently too late. She was dead this morning. Since she was new, I assumed she had issues before she arrived at our house. As bad as it sounds, I am kind of glad since I really didn't want a female guppy anyway. We're taking her back to Petsmart (along with the short-lived catfish) to get our money back this weekend. Nothing like having little baggies of dead fish on top of your refrigerator until you can get to the store

As far as the salt goes, whenever Swimmy, or original guppy seemed to be hovering near the surface a little more often, usually after water changes, I added salt to the 10 gallon aquarium. That usually got him back in the "swim" of things. I had read online (I've read so much about fish online couldn't tell you where) that guppies and mollies prefer a little salt in the water and have always added salt to the tanks if we had either of these fish.

I do know that tetras do not like salt, which is one of the reasons I separated the tetras from the guppies. Oh well, too late to change it now...guess the water changes will have to dilute the salt!

I am thinking of some surface plants. I kind of like the brightness of the new aquarium, it's very cheery. But the blackfins REALLY don't like it...they used to be all over the tank in the 10 gallon, but now they hover under the plants all the time. They used to literally jump out of the water at feeding time, but now they just dart out as the food drops, grab it and swim back under the plant really fast, so I guess I need to reduce the wattage in the bulb.
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Old 02-10-2004, 09:11 AM   #17
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Just one more thing...I did a water check on the 20 gallon this morning. I used gravel from the cycled 10 gallon and squeezed some gunk from the medium in the 10 gallon filter into the new filter when I started it up before moving the fish in.

Yesterday and Sunday's test revealed no ammonia and no nitrites. Today's test revealed no ammonia but a rather high nitrite level (about 1.5). I did a small water change (probably about 10%).

Is it possible my tank cycle is already past the ammonia spike and now I just need the nitrite spike to drop and we'll be cycled? I have no idea if I put enough gunk from the 10 into the 20...I did realize that part of my problem with the 10 is that I had far too little gravel, but since the only thing in there now is our two bettas and some catfish, gravel isn't as important.

I am considering buying another small filter for the 10 (the divider seems to be affecting the water flow a little) and once I get it running, I was considering removing the medium from the old filter on the 10 and sticking the whole thing in the 20 to push the cycle.

So, am I looking at some daily water changes for a few days?
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Sorry you lost the Guppy, for future reference this is the basic guidelines for guppies in tanks...

all females or
all males or
at LEAST two females to every male if you mix them

"So, am I looking at some daily water changes for a few days?"

Likely, keep checking the water and doing the water changes as needed.

As far as the salt goes, I use 1 teaspoon per 10 gallons of water. This is well under the "reccomended" dosage but it seems to work fine.
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