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Old 07-01-2006, 10:18 PM   #1
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I want a fresh water STING RAY -- Where ??? Advice ???

I read a short story in a magizine about there being a freh water sting ray, didn't have many details.

Can anyone tell me more about these ???

Where to find ??? First hand experiance ?? How big do they get ???
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Old 07-01-2006, 10:31 PM   #2
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Yes I can give you some information as I did research on them hoping to get one myself. This is what I found: One LFS sells them and I have talked with another LFS that refuses to sell them because of the difficulty in keeping them.
1) They are illegal to sell or own in many states so you would want to check that out first.
2) They need pristine water conditions as babies and if they survive to adulthood they will probably do fine.
3) They love live food and will eat most other fish in their tank. Most people keep them in species only tanks.
4) The tank needs to start at a minimum of 50 gln. and go up from there as they grow. I have seen some pictures of them in tanks and those tanks have all been in the 200 gln. range.
5) They do have stingers and can sting you and it can potentially be serious to you.
After all my research I decided that I will not get them as I personally can't/don't want to give them what they need to be healthy and happy.
I suggest you Google "Freshwater stingray" and you will find multiple sites to read and then you can decide if you want to get them.
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Old 07-01-2006, 10:52 PM   #3
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If you want one, come to Richmond Virginia. My local fish store has one in a 10 gallon tank. It's already about 8-10" across the body. Makes me sick. I'm not sure I will be visiting them again anytime soon.
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Old 07-02-2006, 03:08 AM   #5
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A FW ray is a big undertaking...most species get pretty large, so be thinking 125+ gallons, and even 'teacup' rays (usually P. reticulatus) gat large enough to want a 75 gallon wide tank for just a couple.

Rays are not inexpensive....expect to pay $40-$100 (depending on where you live) for the least expensive (usually the teacups), $120-$200 for a motoro (the most common of the more colourful tays), and more for many species.

Any tank that a ray goes into needs to have excellent water quality, be very stable as to water parameters, and be well cycled and seasoned. Sand substrate is a must (and not all sands are the correct type), and care must be taken when decorating the tank, from the type and amount of decorations to the placement of them.

Species tanks are best, although there are tankmates that are suitable, but again, these must be chosen very carefully, for their sake and the ray's.

A few members here keep and have kept FW rays, so if this is something you wish to pursue, please feel free to ask specific questions.
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this is a type of loach called a hillsdale loach or something, and it looks very similar to a stingray, but stays small
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Those loaches are called Chinese Hillstream Loaches, Butterfly loaches or just Hillstream loach. Scientific name: Beaufortia kweichowensis. They grow to about 3" and can live in cold or warm water. The bigger need for them is a fast moving stream or current, like their native river environment. Most people use multiple power heads to achieve this. Although they tend to be good community fish the issue is can the other fish live with the water current? I know that people do keep them without the current but that's not natural for them and IMO we should try to keep our fish in as close to their natural environments as possible.
They are really cool and my LFS that advised me not to get the stingrays suggested the Hillstream loach as an alternative if I could get the water flow right. Unfortunately that doesn't fit in with my community tank so I've passed on the Hillstreams at this point.
Google "Hillstream loach" and you'll find multiple sites with good information if you so choose.
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you think putting them in a tank without a strong current is unnatural, try putting any fish in a tank to begin with is unnatural...
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Heh, you could go to Argentina

The freshwater rays there get huuuge!!! When fishing, you occassionally hook one, and they are dangerous out of the water. Here is a link to a site where the have a picture of a 198kg ray http://www.pescaynauticaweb.com.ar/p...eca_fotos1.htm
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That Hillstream loach sounds like a good alternative except the current issue like was mentioned. As for the regular rays I don't have a tank large enough ,yet, maybe some day.

That is a huge ray in the link, never been close to one that big. I dove with a few spotted eagle rays and lots of yellow and southern stingrays in Coz but never that big.

Thanks for the info and guidance.
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