More fish!

[KonvictKeeper]

Thinking about getting some more fish in the future...

OK, so should I pull out another 20g and get some GBRs?
OR, should I whip out one of my 55g's and get a red devil/oscar/managuense?

 

[bruinsbro1997]

Thinking about getting some more fish in the future...

OK, so should I pull out another 20g and get some GBRs?
OR, should I whip out one of my 55g's and get a red devil/oscar/managuense?

You could do a 20 g with GBRs, not sure about the other cichlids in the 55 though. I think you could keep an Oscar in a 55 with really excellent filtration.

 

[KonvictKeeper]

Hmm ok.
I thought I heard you could have a red in a 50g. I was kinda thinking that 55 might not be enough for a jaguar.

 

[KonvictKeeper]

ALSO!

Could I keep a pair of firemouths in a 55?
How about JD's?

 

[Pleco11771]

ALSO!

Could I keep a pair of firemouths in a 55?
How about JD's?

Yes that's plenty of room for them and they'd be happy

 

[redsea]

I would go with the GBR's. They are such awesome fish!

 

[KonvictKeeper]

Thanks guys! I think I might do the GBR's because I don't really want to set up a 55g (I don't even have a stand). I've heard they are really hard to breed/keep. Is this true? I would like to breed them.

 

[KonvictKeeper]

Also, If I were to keep GBR's in a 20, would I be able to keep other fish in there? (Dwarf gourami's?)

 

[bruinsbro1997]

Thanks guys! I think I might do the GBR's because I don't really want to set up a 55g (I don't even have a stand). I've heard they are really hard to breed/keep. Is this true? I would like to breed them.

Yes, they are hard to keep, I would try to get some directly from a breeder or an outstanding LFS.

Also, If I were to keep GBR's in a 20, would I be able to keep other fish in there? (Dwarf gourami's?)

I would think a school of tetras or something along those lines but that'd be it.

 

[KonvictKeeper]

Ok thanks! What makes them so difficult?

 

[KonvictKeeper]

anyone? (fifteen characters)

 

[picture_117]

They're known to die unexpectedly for no reason. Your tank parameters could be perfect and they just die randomly. It mostly has to do with the quality of the stock.

 

[KonvictKeeper]

Hmmm my grandfather is an expert aquarist and has bred many types of SW and FW fish, he says that GBR's are the only kind he has failed to breed.

 

[picture_117]

I believe they inject some of the juveniles with something to make the colors pop out since they aren't colorful pretty adults yet.
If you buy them from a reliable source/breeder who cares for them then they have a better chance of survival.

 

[KonvictKeeper]

And that injection makes their health decline?

 

[picture_117]

I believe it makes them more sensitive/ prone to easy deaths. I'm not fully informed in what goes in them/the effects.

 

[KonvictKeeper]

Alright. That Pet Place is quite close to me and I know they have what they call "Wild Rams" there... Maybe I could try those?

 

[picture_117]

Well try and find out the scientific name to make sure they work in there. If they are truly wild then you'd have to be more careful with the tank parameters than if they were tank raised.

 

[KonvictKeeper]

I don't think they're actually wild... I'll look into it. If you want to check them out here's the link: Mikrogeophagus ramirezi "Wild Ram" | South/Central American Cichlids | Freshwater Fish | Aquarium Livestock - ThatPetPlace.com

 

[picture_117]

Well that is a GBR, I don't know why they're called wild rams, doesn't really show much more information. But Mikrogeophagus Ramirezi is the scientific name for GBR.