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Old 12-19-2005, 06:07 PM   #1
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More silliness @ LFS...or am I missing something?

LFS tested my water. I had planned to do a pwc later that day, and I figured there would be some nitrates present. Their statement to me: "You didn't have any ammonia or nitrites. Your nitrates are about 20 ppm. You really need to finish your cycle before adding any fish."

This follows them telling me a few times that they had never heard of cycling with pure ammonia, and that my tank can't possibly finish cycling until I add fish.

Are these people pretty clueless, or am I just missing something?
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Clueless. Go buy yourself a comprehensive test kit so you can avoid at least that much of their stupidity.
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Old 12-19-2005, 06:36 PM   #3
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Their statement to me: "You didn't have any ammonia or nitrites. Your nitrates are about 20 ppm. You really need to finish your cycle before adding any fish."
Considering that a cycle is complete when those parameters are found, I wouldn't hesitate to say these folks are completely clueless. Did they tell you what to look for in order for your cycle to be complete...say 40ppm nitrates?
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That's what I thought. But unfortunately, I have to play along if I want a good deal on my roseline sharks. They are the only place in town that will give them to me for $19.99, but their return policy is horrible: they require a water test before buying the fish (which would be fine if they had a clue what the heck they are supposed to look for), and they only return within 24 hours.

What worries me the most about their policy is that, even though I live 15 minutes away, my ph is higher than theirs, and they are freaked out by the fact that I have a 7.8 ph. My outside research, and responses to my posts on this board have both indicated that 7.8, while a little high, should still be fine for most community fish, and that I should not add anything to the tank because the likely resulting swings I will get will do much more damage. I guess I could add a natural buffer, like peat moss. I just don't know where to put it. (the Whisper that came with the tank doesn't have much spare space at all)
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7.8 is fine....just how low is the pH at this shop, pray tell?
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Good question. I don't really know. But of course, they won't guarantee their fish unless the conditions are "optimal." (in principle, that's a valid position, but not how they apply it) Since they have something I want, I must play along.

Oh, and in response to your earlier post, I do have a complete test kit (AP liquid 4-in-1).
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WoW, they are clueless. So, what parameters are they looking for before they will sell you the roselines? Your tank sounds perfectly cycled to me, but without a supply of organics the bacteria will probably start to die off.
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Good question. I don't really know. But of course, they won't guarantee their fish unless the conditions are "optimal."
Sounds like a great way for them to defraud people out of credits on dead fish. Next time bring them some distilled water to test.
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h. Next time bring them some distilled water to test
haha sounds funny, but i would actually do that.
sounds like somebody is jerking his gherkin down at that shop.

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If a fish dies, make sure your water is fine, then sneak a sample of their water and let them test it and have it fail, then "Oops, that was your crappy water-here is mine!" If your water tests better than theirs, they can't complain.
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