My Tank

[Ntwolfsoldier]

75 Gal Freshwater
artificial and some live plants
21 Fish
5 Red Tetra
4 Salt & Pepper Cory Catfish juvenile
3 Angel Fish
2 Blue Dwarf Gourami
2 Red Eye Tetra
2 Black Phantom Tetras
1 Black Neon
1 Silver catfish about 2in long has not grown in awhile
1 spotted pleco had for a couple yrs now 1- 1.5 in long

Question is is this to many fish? Reason I recently had a greenish plain Algae eater which had gotten to about 6 in length seem to have no issues as far as i could see managed to jump out of my Tank. Had it for about 3 years now none of the other fish seem to be bothering it as he was the biggest fish in the tank and hung out pretty much to itself

 

[Mebbid]

Its not too many fish, but the numbers are wonky.

1st - Gourami - only 1 dwarf gourami per tank. They are super territorial.

2nd - Angels - When 2 of them n pair off the 3rd could be in trouble. Keep an eye out for aggression.

3rd - Tetras and Neon - These fish need to be kept in groups of 5+ each.

4th - Silver Catfish - Without knowing what kind it is, its hard to make an accurate suggestion about them. Could you post a pic?

 

[Ntwolfsoldier]

Here it is

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[Ntwolfsoldier]

It is one that my son picked out and added while I was away for work about a year or two ago

and the Tetras were in groups of 3 - 5 but I had some weird tank issues about a year ago and lost a few have not added any new since then

 

[Ntwolfsoldier]

As far as the numbers go I deal with a local noncorporate fish specialist that does not pressure their customers to buy anything and only offer advise when asked the Angels and Gourami's came from them based on their recommendation. With that being said I am not saying their right just that I went off the info I had at the time. The Gourami's seem to be fine no aggression noticed and the Angel's have noticed the pairing off aggression once or twice and it has been a different pairing each time

 

[fishyb]

You know, here is my personal opinion. The advice given to you by pet stores and other fish realtors are things they can speak of from personal experience. We all know African cichlids are really territorial. I have a friend who has one yellow one in his tank he bought for his daughter. Got it from Wal-Mart. Its been in a community tank for 4 years and he has never had a problem with it nor has any fish had a problem with the cichlid. However it would never be advised. Some people have different luck than others. I think you should be okay. Just watch for aggression like the other people have said. I wouldn't advise you to do something like red tail catfish and a bunch of neon tetras they would 99% be consumed but you get what I am saying. Just go do it.

 

[ScotJudd]

75 Gal Freshwater
artificial and some live plants
21 Fish
5 Red Tetra
4 Salt & Pepper Cory Catfish juvenile
3 Angel Fish
2 Blue Dwarf Gourami
2 Red Eye Tetra
2 Black Phantom Tetras
1 Black Neon
1 Silver catfish about 2in long has not grown in awhile
1 spotted pleco had for a couple yrs now 1- 1.5 in long

Question is is this to many fish? Reason I recently had a greenish plain Algae eater which had gotten to about 6 in length seem to have no issues as far as i could see managed to jump out of my Tank. Had it for about 3 years now none of the other fish seem to be bothering it as he was the biggest fish in the tank and hung out pretty much to itself

I don't think you have too many fish but maybe you could rebalance with a few extra. Tetras and neons do so much better in groups, five is a good starting point but I like to have about 15 of the same fish. Their behaviour is so different from when they are in once and twos.


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[Mebbid]

You know, here is my personal opinion. The advice given to you by pet stores and other fish realtors are things they can speak of from personal experience. We all know African cichlids are really territorial. I have a friend who has one yellow one in his tank he bought for his daughter. Got it from Wal-Mart. Its been in a community tank for 4 years and he has never had a problem with it nor has any fish had a problem with the cichlid. However it would never be advised. Some people have different luck than others. I think you should be okay. Just watch for aggression like the other people have said. I wouldn't advise you to do something like red tail catfish and a bunch of neon tetras they would 99% be consumed but you get what I am saying. Just go do it.

The problem is that with things like dwarf gouramis is that their care profile says that they are peaceful community fosh which for the most part is true. Then they are stocked in huge numbers in store tanks which forces them to be peaceful much like african cichlids. So in the store keepers experience they are great community fish and they have no problem suggesting getting 2 or 3.

However, those with more in depth knowledge of the fish knows that they are super territorial as they grow up. Keep an eye out on this forum, every couple weeks another thread pops up asking why dwarf gouramis are terrorizing each other.

The same way woth your friend that has the yellow lab in her tank. Those with in depth knowledge of african cichlids knows that they are primarily aggressive towards other africans of the same species. With an appropriate selection of fish a single yellow lab would be fine in a community.

 

[Ntwolfsoldier]

Ok so beyond the aggression cocern my numbers are fine and I have enough cover and hiding spots so it must be my water balance is off

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[Nils]

Here it is

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Looks like an iridescent shark. These guys get massive, 4'+, and are best left in the wild or in 2,000 gallon+ sized ponds IMO. Otherwise, you don't have too many fish. You should balance out the schools and maybe get rid of some fish, like the others suggested.

 

[Ntwolfsoldier]

Ok first off it is not an endangered shark that would make it illegal to sell or own like I said it some sort of catfish with the whiskers off the corners of its mouth I know they are hard to see in that picture secondly it as only grown about an inch bigger than when we got it but I appreciate all the help thank you all

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[Fresh2o]

Ok first off it is not an endangered shark that would make it illegal to sell or own like I said it some sort of catfish with the whiskers off the corners of its mouth I know they are hard to see in that picture secondly it as only grown about an inch bigger than when we got it but I appreciate all the help thank you all

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It was not implied that the shark was endangered or illegal to own. The "best left in the wild" statement was most likely because of the size these fish can get (3-4'). Not really suitable for typical home aquariums.


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