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Old 05-21-2011, 05:04 PM   #1
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Nervous about getting a GBR?

Are german blue rams as finicky as their reputation says? They are so beautiful, and I'd like to add one to my 20 gallon long tank wih 8 neon tetras and 3 platy, but not if it's going to die. I do have a good filter, and do 35-40% water changes every week. What do you think?

If I don't get the GBR I'll probably go with a Bolivian.
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PH? Hardness?

generally they like acidic water, but as long as your water parameters are constant you shouldn't have much trouble.
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I had a beautiful GBR for about 2 weeks. Against my better judgement I got him from a lfs (instead of a private breeder like everyone recommended). He did absolutely wonderful for the first week...then just changed. He stopped eating, he hid in the back of the tank and eventually died :-(. My water was pristine, all fish were compatible, there was no injury or sickness...he just died. Through research, I know many of them are just poor stock and die off easily. I would either highly recommend looking at the hardier (and also beautiful) Bolivian Rams, or find a trusted breeder if you did want a GBR.
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Ph is 7.4, hardness is pretty high.
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If you did decide to go with a Bolivian instead, I just got an absolutely stunning male from Severum Mama last week. I super highly recommend her (as everyone else on the site does too). You could PM her and ask if she still has any
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If you did decide to go with a Bolivian instead, I just got an absolutely stunning male from Severum Mama last week. I super highly recommend her (as everyone else on the site does too). You could PM her and ask if she still has any
Thanks for the tip. You wouldn't happen to have a picture would you? I had a bolivian a while a go but she was very plain. Did she ship, and was it expensive?
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Thanks for the tip. You wouldn't happen to have a picture would you? I had a bolivian a while a go but she was very plain. Did she ship, and was it expensive?
I haven't taken a pic yet, but I can get one later. His fins are very dark black and his orange and pink colors are getting more vibrant by the day. He's also been elected the adopted leader of my Red Eye Tetras, lol. They follow him around the tank and have formed a very active, albeit odd school, haha.

Yep, he was shipped and was very reasonably priced. I live in VA and she's in GA, so it may be more expensive if you live further away.
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I haven't taken a pic yet, but I can get one later. His fins are very dark black and his orange and pink colors are getting more vibrant by the day. He's also been elected the adopted leader of my Red Eye Tetras, lol. They follow him around the tank and have formed a very active, albeit odd school, haha.

Yep, he was shipped and was very reasonably priced. I live in VA and she's in GA, so it may be more expensive if you live further away.
Thanks, I'm a little further up in PA, but I'll definately look into it.
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Thanks, I'm a little further up in PA, but I'll definately look into it.
For sure the GBR are beautiful, IMO nicer that the Bolivian, but also I heard a lot of comments about mysterious deaths with them.

But not impossible, you will never know if you don't try!! Just , as Eco said, be aware of their reputation.
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I bought 2 last saturday. 1 just died today, but the other is doing okay so far. He's still pale, but he's been eating, which is a good sign. Hopefully he lives, since I like him.
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