pH starting to show signs of stability, nitrites and ammonia high - Page 2 - Aquarium Advice

xyyz · 06-25-2008, 02:35 AM

i woke up today to find the once crystal clear water, completely cloudy.

this is a good thing right? does the cloudiness indicate a bacteria bloom?

also, i've had two local fish stores tell me to steer clear away from Amquel+. both places stocked Amquel, but avoided Amquel+. anyone hear horror stories about Amquel+?

**Purrbox** · 06-25-2008, 10:18 AM

As long as the cloudiness is white, it's probably the bacteria bloom and a very good sign that things are progressing well. Should go away in a few days.

xyyz · 06-25-2008, 03:08 PM

yeps. the cloudiness was white-ish. unfortunatey, it's pretty much gone today. was the partial water change a bad idea?

**Purrbox** · 06-25-2008, 04:43 PM

That just means that the bacteria are settling on the surfaces of your aquarium, including in your filter. Not a bad sign by any means.

xyyz · 06-27-2008, 02:52 AM

the nitrates are still holding around 2ppm. i've swapped to Prime. i added a double dose to neutralize the nitrites. i'll test again in 30mins to an hour to see if Prime's done it's job.

i hope the tank cycles by another week, but from the looks of it, i don't think that's happening.

EDIT:

a few hours later and i gotta say that i'm really disappointed with Prime. i followed the instructions for an nitrite emergency. i dosed 5x the single dose as instructed, and the nitrites still haven't decreased.

with Amquel+, the nitrites would vanish within 30-45 minutes of treating the water.

**Purrbox** · 06-27-2008, 08:54 PM

Please keep in mind that Prime detoxifies the Ammonia and Nitrite, it doesn't remove them. It is still possible for a test kit to register them in their nontoxic forms.

SpeedEuphoria · 06-27-2008, 10:24 PM

Yeah many products just detoxify as described above, most times they are still read on the test, they are just less harmful to the fish

xyyz · 06-28-2008, 04:11 AM

hmmm... i wonder what Amquel+ does differently then. 'cause the tests don't register a trace of nitrites after using it.

also, if you look at the Amquel+ writeup from Kordon, they specifically say the products targets nitrites. if you look at what Seachem says about prime and nitrites, they say that it's a plesant surprise that Prime does it what it does to nitrites. they base this on the input of Prime users, not on anything they've done on their own it seems. they then go on to day that they have no clue how or why it reduces nitrites.

06-25-2008, 10:18 AM	#12
Purrbox Aquarium Advice Addict Community Moderator Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Iowa USA Posts: 5,245	As long as the cloudiness is white, it's probably the bacteria bloom and a very good sign that things are progressing well. Should go away in a few days. __________________ ~Joy 10 Gallon Planted Photo Log - 5.5 Gallon Planted Photo Log - 2.5 Gallon Planted Photo Log - Pico Planted Photo Log

06-25-2008, 04:43 PM	#14
Purrbox Aquarium Advice Addict Community Moderator Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Iowa USA Posts: 5,245	That just means that the bacteria are settling on the surfaces of your aquarium, including in your filter. Not a bad sign by any means. __________________ ~Joy 10 Gallon Planted Photo Log - 5.5 Gallon Planted Photo Log - 2.5 Gallon Planted Photo Log - Pico Planted Photo Log

06-27-2008, 02:52 AM	#15
xyyz Aquarium Advice Regular Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 96 Images: 3	the nitrates are still holding around 2ppm. i've swapped to Prime. i added a double dose to neutralize the nitrites. i'll test again in 30mins to an hour to see if Prime's done it's job. i hope the tank cycles by another week, but from the looks of it, i don't think that's happening. EDIT: a few hours later and i gotta say that i'm really disappointed with Prime. i followed the instructions for an nitrite emergency. i dosed 5x the single dose as instructed, and the nitrites still haven't decreased. with Amquel+, the nitrites would vanish within 30-45 minutes of treating the water. Last edited by xyyz; 06-27-2008 at 07:07 AM.

06-27-2008, 08:54 PM	#16
Purrbox Aquarium Advice Addict Community Moderator Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Iowa USA Posts: 5,245	Please keep in mind that Prime detoxifies the Ammonia and Nitrite, it doesn't remove them. It is still possible for a test kit to register them in their nontoxic forms. __________________ ~Joy 10 Gallon Planted Photo Log - 5.5 Gallon Planted Photo Log - 2.5 Gallon Planted Photo Log - Pico Planted Photo Log

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06-25-2008, 02:35 AM	#11
xyyz Aquarium Advice Regular Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 96 Images: 3	i woke up today to find the once crystal clear water, completely cloudy. this is a good thing right? does the cloudiness indicate a bacteria bloom? also, i've had two local fish stores tell me to steer clear away from Amquel+. both places stocked Amquel, but avoided Amquel+. anyone hear horror stories about Amquel+?

06-25-2008, 03:08 PM	#13
xyyz Aquarium Advice Regular Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 96 Images: 3	yeps. the cloudiness was white-ish. unfortunatey, it's pretty much gone today. was the partial water change a bad idea?

06-28-2008, 04:11 AM	#18
xyyz Aquarium Advice Regular Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 96 Images: 3	hmmm... i wonder what Amquel+ does differently then. 'cause the tests don't register a trace of nitrites after using it. also, if you look at the Amquel+ writeup from Kordon, they specifically say the products targets nitrites. if you look at what Seachem says about prime and nitrites, they say that it's a plesant surprise that Prime does it what it does to nitrites. they base this on the input of Prime users, not on anything they've done on their own it seems. they then go on to day that they have no clue how or why it reduces nitrites.