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Old 10-23-2014, 04:43 PM   #11
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@Emerald76, no problem. Between my 55 and my 29 it seems I am in a constant cycle of Water change, vacuuming and filter changes. Especially in the 29 gallon with he Angel ( what a Bio load!), A few weeks ago I fell behind by a day or 2 and soon regretted it. Since then I have not only stayed on top of my WCs, but I now keep a log of all of my maintenance and parameters for both tanks. I've decided on 3 peppered cory cats. Thanks for the advice.


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Old 10-25-2014, 01:47 AM   #12
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That is most definitely a Chinese algae eater. They get big, territorial, and nasty. I'd suggest returning it if at all possible. Gyrinocheilus aymonieri – Sucking ‘Loach’ (Gyrinocheilus kaznakovi, Gyrinocheilus monchadskii) — Seriously Fish
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Old 10-25-2014, 08:05 AM   #13
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@severummama, I returned him a couple days ago. Thanks!


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Old 10-25-2014, 12:28 PM   #14
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Haha, good move on your part. Your tank will be a lot more harmonious without that fish.
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Old 10-25-2014, 09:20 PM   #15
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I disagree with the recommendation to not buy fish just to clean.

I really wanted a community that self-supported, with complimentary species. I want to say ecosystem but someone will come remind me that's near to impossible or I'm using the word wrong ...

But anyway. Cleaners are important. I researched which cleaners clean what, and chose an assortment accordingly. I had thought Otos were boring, ghost shrimp ugly, and Malaysian trumpet snails a nuisance and a sign of a flawed tank. And I couldn't justify the cost of the small loaches I loved, and didn't love the small ones I could afford.

So I acquired 4 or 5 species, fully half my bioload, of fish I didn't love. I've come to appreciate all of those for what they do, and have come to enjoy watching them.

If I'd only bought what I loved, my tank would be a heck of a mess.


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Old 10-26-2014, 03:22 PM   #16
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The fish tank is definitely an ecosystem, albeit a closed one. I agree that one should try to keep complimentary species. If you have algae, then why not get an algae eater if you have the room for it. The problem I often see is people getting an algae eater for algae that's not there yet. Otos are notorious for starving in tanks because they didn't wait long enough for the algae to grow, assuming it will grow. Not all tanks will have algae issues.
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When he gets bigger he'll suck the slim coat off the angels


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The fish tank is definitely an ecosystem, albeit a closed one. I agree that one should try to keep complimentary species. If you have algae, then why not get an algae eater if you have the room for it. The problem I often see is people getting an algae eater for algae that's not there yet. Otos are notorious for starving in tanks because they didn't wait long enough for the algae to grow, assuming it will grow. Not all tanks will have algae issues.

My understanding is that Otos eat biofilm, in addition to algae. So they can live well in a tank without algae, but it has to be well established and not overly scrubbed.

I have fat Otos in a tank that's never had an algae issue ... They run around sucking invisible something off everything. I suspect that's the mysterious biofilm.


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