Python No Spill Gravel Vac - Page 2 - Aquarium Advice

JohnPaul · 09-20-2008, 05:55 PM

Lager got it right. Dechlorinators do not remain in the water, but break down. I know Seachem (makers of Prime) say that you can expect their product to remain in the water no more than 24 hours.

Sombunya · 09-21-2008, 02:00 AM

Ok, so a de-chlorinator agent breaks down and goes away. I'm noting these names here and will head over to my LFS tomorrow.

I'm currently using API Stresscoat+ that says it "replaces slimecoat, reduces electrolyte loss" etc. etc.
I add 1 teaspoon (about 5 ml) to 10 gallons and then I test the buckets for Chlorine using HACH testing chemicals. No Chlorine. And at my house the free Chlorine residual runs from .7 to 1 ppm.

Can I use the API Stresscoat product, treating for 100 gallons when I'm only changing 25-30 gallons? Or should I use a straight de-chlorinator, and then add just 25-30 gallons worth of API?

aqua man · 09-21-2008, 03:38 AM

python 28 dollars
extension 20 dollars
metal adapter 7 dollars
never having to use a bucket again priceless lol

**Fishyfanatic** · 09-21-2008, 08:59 AM

gzeiger- You can use the python for both halves of the water change without the shelf, ladder, or bucket. Just reverse the water flow and add declor to the tank.

**Purrbox** · 09-21-2008, 02:49 PM

I'd skip the other additives and just use a quality dechlorinator like Prime. The rest of that stuff is a waste of money in my opinion. Just keep up with the aquarium maintenance and you'll have healthy fish.

Sombunya · 09-23-2008, 12:09 AM

So I bought a bottle of PRIME today and read the directions.

Halfway through it said: "May be added to aquarium directly, but better if added to new water first. If adding directly to aquarium , base dose on aquarium volume. Sulfur odor is normal."

Has anyone here actually used full, aquarium-volume sized doses for an extended period of time?

As I said earlier, I'm just a little concerned about total dissolved solids (tds) or anything else building up after many water changes.

Lager · 09-23-2008, 12:18 AM

I have for years. It dissolves quickly. It will not harm your fish or change your water quality, it will simply remove chlorine and detoxify ammonia and nitrites.

**Fishyfanatic** · 09-23-2008, 07:42 AM

I have used it for roughly 4 years now.

dmoney87 · 09-24-2008, 03:48 PM

Didnt think this thread would blow up like this. Thanks all for sharing your years of aquatic wisdom. Going to get my python today.. payday

-davE

JesseL · 09-24-2008, 08:12 PM

I've tried the others- Prime is all I will use now. It's the best and it takes less of it so it goes a lot farther than other products.

09-21-2008, 02:00 AM	#12
Sombunya Aquarium Advice Regular Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 69	Ok, so a de-chlorinator agent breaks down and goes away. I'm noting these names here and will head over to my LFS tomorrow. I'm currently using API Stresscoat+ that says it "replaces slimecoat, reduces electrolyte loss" etc. etc. I add 1 teaspoon (about 5 ml) to 10 gallons and then I test the buckets for Chlorine using HACH testing chemicals. No Chlorine. And at my house the free Chlorine residual runs from .7 to 1 ppm. Can I use the API Stresscoat product, treating for 100 gallons when I'm only changing 25-30 gallons? Or should I use a straight de-chlorinator, and then add just 25-30 gallons worth of API? __________________ 100 Gallon 4 Bluegill, 2 Crawfish 40 Gallon 2 Bluegill, 1 Crawfish, 1 Catfish 20 Gallon 5 Sculpin, 1 tiny Bluegill Member of NANFA

09-21-2008, 03:38 AM	#13
aqua man Aquarium Advice Regular Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 97 Images: 3	python 28 dollars extension 20 dollars metal adapter 7 dollars never having to use a bucket again priceless lol __________________ 55 Gallon tank 1- M Blue Beta,2- Chinese Algae Eaters, 1- Rainbow Shark,4- Opaline Gouramis 2 gold 2 blue-1 Pictus Catfish.

09-21-2008, 08:59 AM	#14
Fishyfanatic Aquarium Advice Addict Community Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,267 Images: 15	gzeiger- You can use the python for both halves of the water change without the shelf, ladder, or bucket. Just reverse the water flow and add declor to the tank. __________________ Vote for Aquarium Advice 10 Gallon Lake Malawi Cichlid Fry 29 Gallon Community 55 Gallon Community 55 Gallon Lake Malawi Cichlid Fry 150 Gallon Lake Malawi Cichlid

09-21-2008, 02:49 PM	#15
Purrbox Aquarium Advice Addict Community Moderator Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Iowa USA Posts: 5,381	I'd skip the other additives and just use a quality dechlorinator like Prime. The rest of that stuff is a waste of money in my opinion. Just keep up with the aquarium maintenance and you'll have healthy fish. __________________ ~Joy 10 Gallon Planted Photo Log - 5.5 Gallon Planted Photo Log - 2.5 Gallon Planted Photo Log - Pico Planted Photo Log

09-23-2008, 12:09 AM	#16
Sombunya Aquarium Advice Regular Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 69	So I bought a bottle of PRIME today and read the directions. Halfway through it said: "May be added to aquarium directly, but better if added to new water first. If adding directly to aquarium , base dose on aquarium volume. Sulfur odor is normal." Has anyone here actually used full, aquarium-volume sized doses for an extended period of time? As I said earlier, I'm just a little concerned about total dissolved solids (tds) or anything else building up after many water changes. __________________ 100 Gallon 4 Bluegill, 2 Crawfish 40 Gallon 2 Bluegill, 1 Crawfish, 1 Catfish 20 Gallon 5 Sculpin, 1 tiny Bluegill Member of NANFA

09-20-2008, 05:55 PM	#11
JohnPaul Aquarium Advice FINatic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 695	Lager got it right. Dechlorinators do not remain in the water, but break down. I know Seachem (makers of Prime) say that you can expect their product to remain in the water no more than 24 hours.

09-23-2008, 12:18 AM	#17
Lager Aquarium Advice Freak Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New York, NY Posts: 351	I have for years. It dissolves quickly. It will not harm your fish or change your water quality, it will simply remove chlorine and detoxify ammonia and nitrites.

09-23-2008, 07:42 AM	#18
Fishyfanatic Aquarium Advice Addict Community Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,267 Images: 15	I have used it for roughly 4 years now. __________________ Vote for Aquarium Advice 10 Gallon Lake Malawi Cichlid Fry 29 Gallon Community 55 Gallon Community 55 Gallon Lake Malawi Cichlid Fry 150 Gallon Lake Malawi Cichlid

09-24-2008, 03:48 PM	#19
dmoney87 Aquarium Advice Activist Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: London Ontario Canada Posts: 141	Didnt think this thread would blow up like this. Thanks all for sharing your years of aquatic wisdom. Going to get my python today.. payday -davE __________________ 75g Planted (just started)(soon 2 b Discus) Tank. The Past Is History, The Future Is A Mystery, Today Is A Gift, Thats Why They Call It The Present.

09-24-2008, 08:12 PM	#20
JesseL Aquarium Advice Apprentice Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Broadway North Carolina USA Posts: 38	I've tried the others- Prime is all I will use now. It's the best and it takes less of it so it goes a lot farther than other products.

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