river tank - Aquarium Advice

sharkthevandal · 07-26-2004, 02:44 AM

has any one out there set up a tank with wild caught fish. from cold water streams. i have been thinking about doing something like this for a while. and was wondering if they are any harder to keep than a tank with store bought fish?

poikilotherm · 07-26-2004, 11:12 AM

I haven't done that, but probably the major thing you will have to worry about is the eventual size your fish will reach. Also, if any fish are threatened or endangered, you must talk to the appropriate authorities first. Research the fish and their temperature ranges, you may need to cool your tank...

Where you gonna get them, Paradise Creek?

If so, they're not picky about water quality!

docrak · 07-26-2004, 11:17 AM

What kind of fish do you have in the wild in Russia?

Fruitbat · 07-26-2004, 11:35 AM

(whispers aside to docrak)....psssst....that's Moscow, Idaho!!

Besides....I always thought Troy was in Asia Minor! Is Helen still hanging around there??

Menagerie · 07-26-2004, 12:18 PM

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Where you gonna get them, Paradise Creek?

If so, they're not picky about water quality!

Good call!
I'm not a wild fish expert by any means, but my fiance was in charge of some trout in a living stream in the Bio Department at UI. River fish need lots of current and cool water. The project my fiance worked on involved growing up fry and his lab mate had older fish--they needed a lot of room!!

docrak · 07-26-2004, 01:23 PM

Sorry, I'm a Canadian transpant to the US. I guess I missed the [acronym:24b0f7aa2e="Identify"]ID[/acronym:24b0f7aa2e] part. There are so many states here I'm still trying to learn all the short forms.

But I do agree with the current part.

Menagerie · 07-26-2004, 01:33 PM

Funny, I'm a US transplant to Canada! Good luck with all the states--you have more to learn than I do

sharkthevandal · 07-27-2004, 01:28 AM

thanks for all the replys. and i'm not really sure what i'm thinking about putting in or where i'm going to get them. i was thinking probably the little spokane river.
dose any one know if there are any fresh water sculpin that are native to the Northwest. i caught something this weekend that looked a lot like a sculpin but most of the one's I have heard about are saltwater fish. any thoughts.

and poikilotherm your probably right about paradise creek, but I think i'll stay away form that one the whole sewage run off thing just dosn't sit to well

poikilotherm · 07-27-2004, 12:38 PM

The freshwater sculpin (or mottled sculpin) could be found in this area...

Check out
http://www.fishbase.org/search.cfm
enter sculpin and you'll get a list of 400 of them. The USA freshwater sculpin, Cottus bairdii seems like a possibility. Clicking on occurences, at leasty two have been recorded in the Little Spokane River, and several others nearby...

(for those of you paying attention, I also suggested this species was being sold as a freshwater lionfish, but I was wrong.

Let's see if I'm right this time, eh?

)

The Fisheries folks here at U of I may also be able to help you, if you cultivated some contacts there.

Menagerie · 07-27-2004, 12:49 PM

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if you cultivated some contacts there

poikilotherm~you are such the scientist

07-26-2004, 02:44 AM	#1
sharkthevandal Aquarium Advice Apprentice Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: moscow id Posts: 41	river tank has any one out there set up a tank with wild caught fish. from cold water streams. i have been thinking about doing something like this for a while. and was wondering if they are any harder to keep than a tank with store bought fish?

07-26-2004, 11:12 AM	#2
poikilotherm Aquarium Advice Activist Join Date: May 2004 Location: Moscow ID Posts: 177 Images: 7	I haven't done that, but probably the major thing you will have to worry about is the eventual size your fish will reach. Also, if any fish are threatened or endangered, you must talk to the appropriate authorities first. Research the fish and their temperature ranges, you may need to cool your tank... Where you gonna get them, Paradise Creek? If so, they're not picky about water quality! __________________ Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind. -Albert Einstein

07-26-2004, 11:35 AM	#4
Fruitbat Aquarium Advice Addict Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Garland,Texas Posts: 1,818 Images: 30	(whispers aside to docrak)....psssst....that's Moscow, Idaho!! Besides....I always thought Troy was in Asia Minor! Is Helen still hanging around there?? __________________ Loaches: Botia almorhae, B. kubotai, B. striata, Noemacheilus triangularis, Schistura sp.aff.nicholsi, S. vinciguerre, Sinibotia robusta, Vaillantella maassi Bichirs: Polypterus senegalus, P. senegalus (albino), P. delhezi, P. sp. 'Congo', P. palmas polli, P.weeksii, P. ornatipinnis, P. palmas buettikoferi, P. retropinnis, P. endlicheri congicus, Polypterus bichir lapradei, P. palmas palmas, Erpetoichthys calabaricus Anabantids: Ctenopoma acutirostre, Ct. ocellatum, Ct. oxyrhynchum, Ct. kingsleyae, Microctenopoma ansorgii, Mct. fasciolatum, Trichogaster trichopterus, Belontia signata, B. hasselti, Anabas testudineus, Macropodus opercularis, Betta splendens Catfish: Dekeyseria sp. (L-052)Sturiosoma panamense, Hypancistrus inspector (L-201), Synodontis eupterus, Synodontis nigrita, Synodontis brichardi, Synodontis soloni, Anaspidoglanis macrostoma Barbs/Rasboras: Capoeta tetrazona, Rasbora borapetensis, Labeo cyclorhynchus Tetras: Phenacogrammus interruptus Other: Xenomystus nigri, Papyrocranus afer, Pantodon buchholzi, Oxymormyrus boulengeri, Protopterus annectens andPhractolaemus ansorgei

07-26-2004, 01:33 PM	#7
Menagerie Aquarium Advice Addict Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 11,266 Images: 77	Funny, I'm a US transplant to Canada! Good luck with all the states--you have more to learn than I do __________________

07-27-2004, 12:38 PM	#9
poikilotherm Aquarium Advice Activist Join Date: May 2004 Location: Moscow ID Posts: 177 Images: 7	The freshwater sculpin (or mottled sculpin) could be found in this area... Check out http://www.fishbase.org/search.cfm enter sculpin and you'll get a list of 400 of them. The USA freshwater sculpin, Cottus bairdii seems like a possibility. Clicking on occurences, at leasty two have been recorded in the Little Spokane River, and several others nearby... (for those of you paying attention, I also suggested this species was being sold as a freshwater lionfish, but I was wrong. Let's see if I'm right this time, eh? ) The Fisheries folks here at U of I may also be able to help you, if you cultivated some contacts there. __________________ Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind. -Albert Einstein

07-26-2004, 11:17 AM	#3
docrak Aquarium Advice Freak Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Troy, Michigan Posts: 252 Images: 5	What kind of fish do you have in the wild in Russia?

07-26-2004, 01:23 PM	#6
docrak Aquarium Advice Freak Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Troy, Michigan Posts: 252 Images: 5	Sorry, I'm a Canadian transpant to the US. I guess I missed the [acronym:24b0f7aa2e="Identify"]ID[/acronym:24b0f7aa2e] part. There are so many states here I'm still trying to learn all the short forms. But I do agree with the current part.

07-27-2004, 01:28 AM	#8
sharkthevandal Aquarium Advice Apprentice Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: moscow id Posts: 41	thanks for all the replys. and i'm not really sure what i'm thinking about putting in or where i'm going to get them. i was thinking probably the little spokane river. dose any one know if there are any fresh water sculpin that are native to the Northwest. i caught something this weekend that looked a lot like a sculpin but most of the one's I have heard about are saltwater fish. any thoughts. and poikilotherm your probably right about paradise creek, but I think i'll stay away form that one the whole sewage run off thing just dosn't sit to well

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