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Old 11-07-2003, 08:56 AM   #11
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So for a 22gallon tank, how many fish can I have?
I realy realy want that GSP, if not I will have to look for another cute main attraction for the tank....
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x = r cos(t) - r2 cos(2t) / 2
y = -r sin(t) - r2 sin(2t) / 2
z = (4/3) r1/2 cos(3t/2)
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Old 11-07-2003, 09:03 AM   #12
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Its not a matter of simple numbers. One needs to consider adult size of fish, how heavy a bioload they put on the tank, temperament and need for space. Is why its so important to do the research you are doing, to be sure all the fish are compatible and will live happily together in the size tank you have.

For example, one could have a school of 10 neons in a 10g tank with good water husbandry. But you'd not want to put a 10 inch oscar into the same size tank; it would be cramped and unhealthy, and keeping the water good would be a chore. Same amount of fish inch wise, but a big difference in terms of needs. Heck, even goldfish, which many people think are easy and can live in small nasty goldfish bowls, actually need about 10-20 gallons EACH! Why? Because they put out a LOT of waste, and the bioload on the tank is really high.
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Old 11-07-2003, 09:49 AM   #13
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So its about the size the bioload and the temperament of the fish yea?

I shall look into each fish while i get the tank set up....
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Old 11-07-2003, 04:56 PM   #14
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Yep, those 3 things, plus the species need for swimming space, are the things to consider. By that I mean some fish don't need a lot of swimming room, like angelfish (although they need lots of space for their fins and need very clean water); yet a school of danios need lots of swimming room even tho they are smaller.

Once you get a list of fish you feel will be compatible, post it here so you can get info from folks who have had them and check out their experiences. This way you'll have lots of info to make a truly informed decision
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Old 11-09-2003, 11:31 AM   #15
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I'm not saying DON'T get the puffer... HOWEVER...

If you're new at this hobby (which it sounds like you are), please do a lot of research and get your tank established for several weeks before you add a puffer. Start with more hardy fish (one that can survive the mistakes that will inevitably be made when starting a new tank) and learn how to care for them before making the commitment to add a puffer.

Puffers have some very special needs and require a bit more care than your average tropical fish. Here is an excellent article about puffer care: http://www.tomgriffin.com/aquasource/intropuffer.shtml

For what its worth, I have a South American puffer. He's healthy, happy and very cute! But I don't know if I could have kept him that way if I'd added him to my very first tank.
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Old 11-10-2003, 05:26 AM   #16
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Ok thankz for you help.....
I am still in the stages of getting all the equipment and stuff, so it wil still be a time b4 I even put water in the tank, let alone fish...

Im not a n00b at this I have had many fish b4(from goldfish to anglefish) I would put myself in as a n00b with the basic ideas on how to look after fish. :p. But this time I would like to get lots of info b4 I start and those 3 basic things I was never taught.
My father use to have lots of fish but never helped me start mine. B@ster|)!

Also One other question, what kind of pump is good to use for the type of fish I am looking at?
An undergravel filter or a waterlevel filter?
I would like LOTS of live plants, and I have heard that an undergravel one is poo (sorry for the punn) as it clears all the waste out of the tank that the plant live on...
Is this the case or there other way to overcome this???


Cheers.


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Forget about the Polypterus and the Erpetoichtys in your brackish tank as well. They're both African river fish and don't often encounter a whole lot of salt. I've kept many of both and have found that they prefer neutral to slightly acid water that is soft. Besides....both of them get pretty darned big!

The scats and the 'weird-looking thing' (possibly a bullrout or freshwater scorpion fish) will both do well in brackish water but beware of the bullrout if that is what it turns out to be...they can give almost as nasty of a 'sting' as their saltwater cousins.
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