starter fish?

[Mumma.of.two]

Ok. Any fish you start with should be what you are planning on keeping in your tank full time. The starter fish idea is very out dated. It was when some 'hardy fish' where put in the tank to start the cycle. No water changes and the fish died or became permanently damaged from the toxic water. When the cycle was complete they where disposed of.
Fish in cycling when done correctly doesn't hurt any fish. Daily water changes have to be done to stop the ammonia and nitrite building to toxic levels.
Fishless cycling is dosing ammonia to add what the fish would usually add. Only a couple of water changes are needed.

 

[Mumma.of.two]

so if i go with 2 schools of 7 tetras and wait a bit could i get a pleco?

Are you fish in or fishless cycling your tank?

 

[Nu-Nu the eel]

I think he wants to do fishless. And yes you could get a pleco, but it depends what type you want

 

[KPCustoms]

for a fish in water change for once a day how much water should you change like 20%

 

[KPCustoms]

ya i am thinking a fish less it looks like its cheeper and easier to do it that way anyway. how long does a fish less cycle take?

 

[Gboy66]

for a fish in water change for once a day how much water should you change like 20%

More, probably 40-50% A DAY. Fish in cycles are definatly not the thing to do IMO

 

[Gboy66]

ya i am thinking a fish less it looks like its cheeper and easier to do it that way anyway. how long does a fish less cycle take?

Eh, anywhere from 3 weeks to over a month depending on some factors. (having established filter media in the tank, having a used filter on the tank , etc)

 

[KPCustoms]

More, probably 40-50% A DAY. Fish in cycles are definatly not the thing to do IMO

ya thats a lot i will probably do a fish less cycle. how long does it usually take to cycle?

 

[Nu-Nu the eel]

It took me about a month and a week. I did mine very slow and i think it was the right thing to do because i didnt loose a single fish. It takes some people longer

 

[KPCustoms]

well the tank is my brothers old one which has this pink coral stuff on the pumps which he said it meant it was a healthy tank but the filter media basket and the filter media will be all new

 

[Mumma.of.two]

They both take the same amount of time 4-8 weeks. Fish in maybe slightly longer than a fishless. The amount and size of PWC depends on how fast the ammonia builds up. How fast the ammonia builds up depends on how many fish, what kind and the size of the tank.
FISHLESS
http://www.aquariumadvice.com/forum...guide-and-faq-to-fishless-cycling-148283.html
FISH IN
http://www.aquariumadvice.com/artic...g-but-I-already-have-fish-What-now/Page2.html
http://www.aquariumadvice.com/forums/f12/fish-in-cycling-step-over-into-the-dark-side-176446.html
Here you go.

 

[Nu-Nu the eel]

Coral? Calcium ya mean? This is freshwater right? Lol

 

[KPCustoms]

Coral? Calcium ya mean? This is freshwater right? Lol

idk its like pink and white

 

[Nu-Nu the eel]

Haha okay. Is your brother in AA?

 

[KPCustoms]

my brother started with the tank as a salt water then went to a freshwater the gave it to me and i will be using it as a freshwater

 

[KPCustoms]

no he was in a whole nano reefer thing that does only salt water live rock stuff

 

[Nu-Nu the eel]

Haha okay gotcha! Well first thing you need to do is get that cycle started! Then we can discuss stocking plans

 

[KPCustoms]

They both take the same amount of time 4-8 weeks. Fish in maybe slightly longer than a fishless. The amount and size of PWC depends on how fast the ammonia builds up. How fast the ammonia builds up depends on how many fish, what kind and the size of the tank.
FISHLESS
http://www.aquariumadvice.com/forum...guide-and-faq-to-fishless-cycling-148283.html
FISH IN
I just learned about cycling but I already have fish. What now?!
http://www.aquariumadvice.com/forums/f12/fish-in-cycling-step-over-into-the-dark-side-176446.html
Here you go.

28 gallon nano cube

 

[KPCustoms]

Haha okay gotcha! Well first thing you need to do is get that cycle started! Then we can discuss stocking plans

i do kinda wanna know what the pink white stuff is he said it was good but its like all over the heads and pumps

 

[Nu-Nu the eel]

Ya thats probably calcium... Thats what my guess is. It happens to everything that has been used. The filters that i own have that all over them, but you can remove it, its just hard