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Old 10-21-2014, 11:01 AM   #11
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Hmm, maybe what she meant was that she has 27 years of fish caring experience, but that Seachem Stability, whatever years she had been using it, worked every time.

The filter from the 3 gallon was moved to the 29 gallon, as a second filter, because I bought another filter for the 29. The filter that was in the 29 originally, was moved to the new 10 gallon.
So the filter from the 29 gallon is seeding the new 10 gallon. But the 29 gallon was cycled with raw shrimp, and never had any fish, so I don't think it had a lot of bacteria to work with. I also moved the decor from the old 3 gallon to the 10 gallon for seeding.
I'm using raw shrimp as a source of ammonia because I'm fishless cycling. But even with seeded media (probably only lightly seeded though), it's been 3 weeks and I still have ammonia. And my mom is driving me crazy, so I'm considering bottled bacteria to speed things up.
at this point you should consider doing a fish-in cycle.
How high is the ammonia testing at?
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I thought API QuickStart sped the cycle up. I've tried it a few times and it seemed to have helped however no testing to back that up.
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I thought API QuickStart sped the cycle up. I've tried it a few times and it seemed to have helped however no testing to back that up.
Ok, it's good to know I have that option.
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at this point you should consider doing a fish-in cycle.
How high is the ammonia testing at?
The highest I've tested so far is 4ppm. The last time I tested, which was Sunday I think, it was at about 2ppm. So I think it's working, but really slowly, and as you know, my mother has no patience. Neither does she believe in the raw shrimp cycling method. Even though it perfectly cycled the big 29 gallon tank.
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Ok, it's good to know I have that option.

One day I intend to run 10gal tanks side by side and see if they do work but never seem to find the time.
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The highest I've tested so far is 4ppm. The last time I tested, which was Sunday I think, it was at about 2ppm. So I think it's working, but really slowly, and as you know, my mother has no patience. Neither does she believe in the raw shrimp cycling method. Even though it perfectly cycled the big 29 gallon tank.

Do you get much smell with that?
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Still. I go with stability. It cycled my 15gal Tanganyika tank instantly. But that is just me. The sand was from another tank, so maybe it was "live". However that's just my opinion. Seachem however, claims that the bacteria used is in a dormant form. Thus have longer shelf lives... Wonder if that true. But I only buy stability that is within 6 months of the manufacture date.

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The problem I've always thought is eventual lack of oxygen rather than food source - I guess they would have to be dormant somehow if they are to survive.
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That in itself is why I dont recommend it. The gist is that ot uses a different type of bacteria for nitrification.

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That in itself is why I dont recommend it. The gist is that ot uses a different type of bacteria for nitrification.
There have just been too many reports of instant cycle than complete cycle crash and restart.
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