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Old 04-18-2012, 09:11 PM   #1
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Sump/Water Resevoir

I've got three tanks 75 gallon display
And empty ten gallon
And an empty 5 gallon
I wanna use the ten as a sump/Refugium for my shrimp Put the heater and filter media stuff down below in there. Then use the five gallon as a reservoir to top off the system when is goes below a certain level. I'm worried about this drain/ flood thing I've read about with sump tanks. I rent so that's not acceptable. Any good links or advice would be awesome. Totally up for some DIY stuff as well.
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Old 04-18-2012, 09:47 PM   #2
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Installing a hang on back overflow box and an appropriately sized return pump is a pretty fool proof way to set it up if you take some precautions. You just have to make sure you run the sump at a level where if the power goes out, whatever drains from the overflow will fit in the sump.
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Old 04-18-2012, 11:07 PM   #3
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Another flood prevention necessity is to make sure there is a small hole in the return tube near the water level. This prevents the return tube from acting like a siphon during a power outage.
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:26 AM   #4
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Where can I find threads that would be useful. With DIY stuff. Pics etc???
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:49 AM   #5
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I just set up an sump with an overflow a few days ago for my freshwater tank and am very happy with it so far.

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11401...OU%3AUS%3A1123

There's the link to the over and pump set up I bought. I also bout some filter floss to use as media and my water is very clean. The only sound is a little bit of water flowing but it's bot bad at all compared the annoying noises my HOB Emperors were making.

I spent an extra $10 on PVC hardware to quiet the over flow and not get the flushing toilet noise.

Heres some pictures. I'm still in the process of installing baffles in the sump. Sorry about the quality of the photos I'll be cleaning the tank later today and try to get better ones.
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Old 04-19-2012, 01:27 PM   #6
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Awesome thanx. Keep me updated please. I'm looking for a non drilled over flow as well. You think I can use my second magnum 350 filter for the return pump ? Or should I use something slower???
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Old 04-19-2012, 01:36 PM   #7
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I'm kinda worried that if I put all my filtration into the sump I'll lose the water flow across my main tank
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Old 04-19-2012, 01:46 PM   #8
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Here's some pictures of tue water movement. In 2 days it moved 1 1/2 inches of sand just from deflecting off the glass. The flyer that my sump pump came with said it put out 600gph at 4 feet so theres a lot of water movement the fish have to fight the current just to stay in one spot where the water return is.

And the is a non drill over flow with double siphon. It won't lose siphon in power outage and restarts when turned back on. I spent 4 hours messing with it just to make sure.

I don't want to break down my over flow again but I'll draw up how I silenced it.
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Heres a ruff drawing of the piping inside the overflow box. All this is 1 inch piping. The pipe on the right is the primary it'll take water from further down but above the siphons intake so that the Siphon will still hold water. It has a cap with a tiny hole drilled in it to keep the flushing toilet noise from happening.

The left side is a secondary over flow. Its different due to the box being to small to hold two pipes like the primary. It didn't have a cap because it dosent make much noise also incase the primary clogs for whatever reason it will spill over. Fail safe.

If this dosent make sense I got my idea from googling silence my overflow box and found plans similar to this.
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Hahahaa I tried being cheap and just using my canisters to pump into and out of the sump.
That loop DID NOT WORK lol. Almost had a ton of water on the floor. ...... Lesson learned
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