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Old 02-02-2014, 11:26 AM   #1
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Question Sunset Gourami Question

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Recently added 3 female Sunset Gourami to my planted 40g breeder community tank. Chose this variety since its the smallest of the Gourami family and the most docile of the bunch. Not interested in the "dwarfs" since they do not tend to be as docile.
My question is, will 2 males (with maybe 5 females) be OK in this size tank?
Normally with Gourami's having two males would be an issue but since these guys are the smallest, most docile member of the family I'm hoping I can have two.
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Old 02-02-2014, 02:56 PM   #2
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It depends a lot on the rest of the stock. They dont NEED to have a male to female ratio, they should get along fine without having more females then females. They are usually VERY docile and wont bother each other. Did you WANT to have that many? Whats the rest of the stock?
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Old 02-02-2014, 03:29 PM   #3
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I am trying to build my stock back up currently. Am considering adding the Gourami males due to their color. Not too sure if I want any fish breeding at this point, so I'm in research mode!! Current stock: 5-6 Kuhli Loach (bio load 2=1), 2 Cory, 5 Neons, 1 Endler male, 2 Guppy males, 1 LF Danio, smallish harem of 3 Betta females & 3 Sunset Gourami. Tank is planted & also has 3 types of Nerite Snails, Assissin Snails and several Ghost Shrimp. Everyone in my tank lives in peaceful harmony, took a long time to get to this point!
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I would start with getting those cory numbers up to 5 of the same spcies, then the same with the danios. This would leave a little bit of room, but you dont need to have the male to female ratio with the sunsets. They should be fine. You could add a few rainbows, or couple ram cichlids.
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Old 02-02-2014, 04:03 PM   #5
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I plan to add more Corie's but my Danio is the last one from his group (he's an old man now) & I want to try a different combo of fish. I thought it would be cool to have 2 different harems in the tank that's why I added the Gouramis. Big personalties but little color & totally different from my Betta girls! Eventually I'm thinking of adding 4-5 Emperor Tetra's once my Danio, Endler & Guppies are gone. Maybe just maybe when I can afford them & have enough tank space I might add a group of 6-10 Pygmy Cories as well. Might be able to squeeze them in, they're bio load should be similar to my Khuli's I think.
This is if I decide to omit any male Sunsets. Since these guys differ so much personality wise to all the others I just didn't know if a 40g breeder was big enough for 2 breeding males.
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Old 02-02-2014, 04:05 PM   #6
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I think your plan sounds good. The pygmy cories have very low bioload. They are SO tiny. See if you can bring the guppies and danio to a local place for some credit.
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I do not suggest keeping the gouramis with the betta females. Labyrinth breathers are notorious for not getting along long term. I see that it is at least working for you right now, but I still do not suggest it for the long run. I definitely would not add males to the mix. If they are all getting along fine now, I wouldn't throw it off by having labyrinth fish breeding.
Something to keep in mind, while honeys are docile compared to other gouramis, they still can be rather feisty IME. If I was you, I would not add males so long as you have all the females of both species. If the harmony ends and you need to re-home the bettas, then adding a couple males should be fine in that amount of space. They are small fish after all, and have enough space to avoid each other.
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Also, for your long term plan, I wouldn't get a species as large and active as the emperor tetra and pygmy cories. They cories could well get out-competed for food. A larger cory species would fair better with emps in my opinion.
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If you use sinking pellets or wafers the cories would be fine.
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If you use sinking pellets or wafers the cories would be fine.
I disagree. It is not a given, but I have definitely seen pygmy cories not be able to compete against a lot of larger fish. Emperor tetras are particularly rambunctious and it can be hard to get any food to fall past them, and then they will clean the gravel too of any fallen bits. Plus, pygmy cories tend to be much more shy than their larger counterparts.
To be fair, if you just meant dwarf cories instead of pygmy cories (C. pygmaeus), there is the C. habrosus that is less shy and would do better. Though, I personally do not suggest keeping habrosus with emperor tetras. But, of course, yymv.
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