theory on ghost shrimp mortality? - Aquarium Advice

krap101 · 08-30-2005, 08:32 PM

ive never really thought about this, but do ghost shrimp die because they arent kept in the best conditions or something else?

i was thinking maybe like.. theres something on the bottom of the tank thats like... harmful to ghost shrimp? there are very few people who have kept ghost shrimp for long periods of time. personally the longest is like 6 months. and only 2 lasted that long, and they died around a week apart. a majority died within the first month..

is it something without dosing iodine? when their moulting, they get eaten or something? maybe anaerobic bacteria is released into the water when they sift around or something?

Toirtis · 08-30-2005, 08:35 PM

Water-quality is an issue, and narty stuff can build up on the tank bottom...especially in a bare-bottomed tank. That aside, they are not particularly long-lived, either...six months after maturing is probably not so bad a time.

krap101 · 08-30-2005, 08:37 PM

oh i was pretty happy the 2 lived 6 months. but i was pretty disappointed in the other 2 dozen

Meredith · 08-30-2005, 10:35 PM

I had one for the longest time,probably for about 6 months. He did not just up and die though. I was moving things around in my tank and I must have squished him

We will just say I found his head before I found his body. I just got a few more for my betta tank, but these guys look to be kinda old. I am not expecting them to live too long.

Zezmo · 08-30-2005, 10:57 PM

I am not sure how long they live, but I know they get a lot bigger that you typically see them. I usually buy them about 1/2 to 1 inch long. I now have a couple that are about 1.5". And the largest I have had was easily over 2". She was so much larger and more brightly colored than the typical Ghost Shrimp that she almost looked like a different species.... but she wasn't

krap101 · 08-30-2005, 11:27 PM

i think the kind that have those red stripish stuff on it are the ones that get monstrous?

**QTOFFER** · 08-30-2005, 11:59 PM

I experience the same thing with [acronym:0b24bab360="Freshwater"]FW[/acronym:0b24bab360] crayfish. They seem extremely healthy and moult a few times before mysteriously expiring - usually during a moult.

Maybe these crustaceans are so sensitive to poor water quality that they require a water change after each feeding? Maybe their microenvironment on the tank bottom differs enough from the rest of the tank to be a factor? Maybe there is a nutritional deficiency that we can't meet? Maybe the breeding stock available to the [acronym:0b24bab360="Local Fish Store"]lfs[/acronym:0b24bab360] is bad? I only wish I knew.

krap101 · 08-31-2005, 12:42 AM

well ghost shrimp are also sold as feeders and treated like feeders. that may give to it.

has anybody tried giving iodine and did they last longer? or maybe their seasonal animals that lay their eggs, die and the next year they come back?

malkore · 08-31-2005, 10:05 AM

my tiger barbs always eat my ghost shrimp.

Lance M. · 08-31-2005, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by krap101

has anybody tried giving iodine and did they last longer?

I use iodine and I have a female around 2.25 inchs long going on 8 months and a couple smaller males about 7 months old. They are in the same tank as my vampires and bamboo shrimp and some amanos. All seem to be doing very well.

08-30-2005, 08:32 PM	#1
krap101 Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Roscoe, IL Posts: 3,824 Images: 12	theory on ghost shrimp mortality? ive never really thought about this, but do ghost shrimp die because they arent kept in the best conditions or something else? i was thinking maybe like.. theres something on the bottom of the tank thats like... harmful to ghost shrimp? there are very few people who have kept ghost shrimp for long periods of time. personally the longest is like 6 months. and only 2 lasted that long, and they died around a week apart. a majority died within the first month.. is it something without dosing iodine? when their moulting, they get eaten or something? maybe anaerobic bacteria is released into the water when they sift around or something? __________________ Wizards first rule-People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true. Wizards second rule-The greatest harm can result from the best intentions. Wizards third rule-Passion rules reason. Wizards fourth rule-There is magic in forgiveness the magic to heal! In the forgiveness you grant, and more so in the forgiveness you receive. Wizards fifth rule-Mind what people do, not only what they say, for deeds will betray a lie. Wizards sixth rule-The only sovereign you can allow to rule you is reason. Wizards seventh rule-Life is the future, not the past Wizards eighth rule-Deserve victory. Wizards ninth rule-Contradictions don't exist, in whole or in part.

08-30-2005, 08:35 PM	#2
Toirtis Aquarium Advice Addict Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Posts: 6,768	Water-quality is an issue, and narty stuff can build up on the tank bottom...especially in a bare-bottomed tank. That aside, they are not particularly long-lived, either...six months after maturing is probably not so bad a time. __________________ G. A. Christian Bilou, Zoologist/Writer Founder/Director, Reptile Rescue Alberta Vice-President, Calgary Aquarium Society www.calgaryaquariumsociety.com Polypterid/Primitive Fish/Ctenopoma/Catfish Fanatic 62 Aquariums, 2200+ total gallons, Aquarist since 1971.

08-30-2005, 08:37 PM	#3
krap101 Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Roscoe, IL Posts: 3,824 Images: 12	oh i was pretty happy the 2 lived 6 months. but i was pretty disappointed in the other 2 dozen __________________ Wizards first rule-People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true. Wizards second rule-The greatest harm can result from the best intentions. Wizards third rule-Passion rules reason. Wizards fourth rule-There is magic in forgiveness the magic to heal! In the forgiveness you grant, and more so in the forgiveness you receive. Wizards fifth rule-Mind what people do, not only what they say, for deeds will betray a lie. Wizards sixth rule-The only sovereign you can allow to rule you is reason. Wizards seventh rule-Life is the future, not the past Wizards eighth rule-Deserve victory. Wizards ninth rule-Contradictions don't exist, in whole or in part.

08-30-2005, 11:27 PM	#6
krap101 Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Roscoe, IL Posts: 3,824 Images: 12	i think the kind that have those red stripish stuff on it are the ones that get monstrous? __________________ Wizards first rule-People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true. Wizards second rule-The greatest harm can result from the best intentions. Wizards third rule-Passion rules reason. Wizards fourth rule-There is magic in forgiveness the magic to heal! In the forgiveness you grant, and more so in the forgiveness you receive. Wizards fifth rule-Mind what people do, not only what they say, for deeds will betray a lie. Wizards sixth rule-The only sovereign you can allow to rule you is reason. Wizards seventh rule-Life is the future, not the past Wizards eighth rule-Deserve victory. Wizards ninth rule-Contradictions don't exist, in whole or in part.

08-31-2005, 12:42 AM	#8
krap101 Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Roscoe, IL Posts: 3,824 Images: 12	well ghost shrimp are also sold as feeders and treated like feeders. that may give to it. has anybody tried giving iodine and did they last longer? or maybe their seasonal animals that lay their eggs, die and the next year they come back? __________________ Wizards first rule-People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true. Wizards second rule-The greatest harm can result from the best intentions. Wizards third rule-Passion rules reason. Wizards fourth rule-There is magic in forgiveness the magic to heal! In the forgiveness you grant, and more so in the forgiveness you receive. Wizards fifth rule-Mind what people do, not only what they say, for deeds will betray a lie. Wizards sixth rule-The only sovereign you can allow to rule you is reason. Wizards seventh rule-Life is the future, not the past Wizards eighth rule-Deserve victory. Wizards ninth rule-Contradictions don't exist, in whole or in part.

08-30-2005, 10:35 PM	#4
Meredith Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Washington Posts: 3,184 Images: 17	I had one for the longest time,probably for about 6 months. He did not just up and die though. I was moving things around in my tank and I must have squished him We will just say I found his head before I found his body. I just got a few more for my betta tank, but these guys look to be kinda old. I am not expecting them to live too long.

08-30-2005, 10:57 PM	#5
Zezmo Aquarium Advice Addict Community Mentor Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Northern California Posts: 1,112 Images: 14	I am not sure how long they live, but I know they get a lot bigger that you typically see them. I usually buy them about 1/2 to 1 inch long. I now have a couple that are about 1.5". And the largest I have had was easily over 2". She was so much larger and more brightly colored than the typical Ghost Shrimp that she almost looked like a different species.... but she wasn't

08-30-2005, 11:59 PM	#7
QTOFFER Aquarium Advice Addict Community Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Kew Gardens, NY Posts: 3,701 Images: 30	I experience the same thing with [acronym:0b24bab360="Freshwater"]FW[/acronym:0b24bab360] crayfish. They seem extremely healthy and moult a few times before mysteriously expiring - usually during a moult. Maybe these crustaceans are so sensitive to poor water quality that they require a water change after each feeding? Maybe their microenvironment on the tank bottom differs enough from the rest of the tank to be a factor? Maybe there is a nutritional deficiency that we can't meet? Maybe the breeding stock available to the [acronym:0b24bab360="Local Fish Store"]lfs[/acronym:0b24bab360] is bad? I only wish I knew.

08-31-2005, 10:05 AM	#9
malkore Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Nebraska, USA Posts: 6,540	my tiger barbs always eat my ghost shrimp. __________________ Visit my aquarium pages - see specs on my tanks, and photos of how they've evolved My other passion: TheNinja 500R - updated 9/18/05

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