Wanted: Participants for fishless cycling study

[xsryman]

Day 1

pH - 7.4
Ammo - 2ppm
Nitrite - .25
Trate 0 ppm

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[flyfishfan1966]

I would love to participate.
FYI pure, clear ammonia was vey difficult to find in southeast Florida.
I finally found it at GFS - Gordon Food Service.

I have a 180 gallon tank with a wet dry system of bio balls and filter media
I also moved a bio wheel 400 from a old, seeded 29 gallon.

The 180 gallon was dosed to 4PPM of ammonia yesterday 2/10.

Ammonia = 4PPM
NitrAtes = 0
NitrItes = 0
PH = 7.6
Temp 80

I also will be tracking KH and GH.

What else can I do to help and get involved??
If you want more details just let me know.

Thanks

 

[xsryman]

I think this thread got cancelled or the op must be on hiatus. Post up your numbers I'll follow it.

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[flyfishfan1966]

Currently

Ammo = 4 stil!
NitrI = 0
NitrA = 0
Ph = 7.6

If anybody's still tracking I'll keep posting.

 

[xsryman]

How much ammonia does it take to achieve 4ppm on 180 gallons?

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[flyfishfan1966]

It takes 1/2 cup of this ammonia.
However, in retrospect I'd only does to 2ppm instead of 4.
There is no reason to get it that high. IMHO.

I added a bottle of fritzyme enough to treat 40 gallons of my 200.
Hopefully this will get some bacteria going.

 

[pip walters]

Way too many variables guys, not least of all the fact that there are several, species of both types of nitrifying bacteria and many strains of each species, many of which will have differing optimal conditions.

And where did this idea of the bacteria coming out of the air come from? Nitrifying bacteria do not produce spores and cannot tolerate drying out!

 

[flyfishfan1966]

I'm hoping they "magically" appear.
I was hoping the fritzyme would help start those magical bacteria.
Just tested again

Same


Ammo 4
NitrI and NjtrA still zeros

I'll give it a few days.

 

[pip walters]

How much ammonia does it take to achieve 4ppm on 180 gallons?

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3.2 grams or 3.2ml liquid if 100% ammonia. I used to use ammonium nitrate powder. 4ppm is ridiculously high though. A full.stock of fish would never produce that.

 

[xsryman]

Yeah I agree. 2ppm should be good. The bacteria should take about 10 days before you start seeing traces of nitrites. Best thing is to kick back and let things brew. Just an fyi that when you do see nitrites cut back your dosing to half or 1ppm ammonia. The op of this thread has noted on other threads that nitrates develop 2x slower than nitrites. So if you keep dosing a lot of ammonia then the nitrites will keep producing faster that the nitrates can grow. Patience is key. You are going to want to do things to speed up this process but other than adding seeded media there is not much you can do except be patient. You have about 3-4 weeks at least until you will be fish ready. Cheers and enjoy. Is this your first tank?

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[flyfishfan1966]

Not first tank definitely the biggest.
First fishless cycle.
I did the feeders for years but I thought I'd try this.