Would this tank work? - Aquarium Advice

Hutch · 10-23-2004, 04:38 PM

I was wondering if this tank would work out and if not what the problems would be?

65 [acronym:1cf74d1727="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:1cf74d1727] with adaquate heating and filistar XP2 and Aquarclear 200

2 [acronym:1cf74d1727="Identify"]ID[/acronym:1cf74d1727] sharks
2 Pictus Cats
1 Black Ghost Knife
1 Fire Eel

I think im overcrowding a bit but Im not sure how much?

Toirtis · 10-23-2004, 04:42 PM

[acronym:f42e627d81="Identify"]ID[/acronym:f42e627d81] sharks get to over 40" long, and will start bashing their heads in on the tank ends (and jumping like crazy) once they reach 12"-14" or so.

The fire eel will eventually hit 36" (and thick like your wrist), although it will take some time....but they are escape artists extrordinare, so your tank will need to be very secure.

So, the latter three species until the eel needs upgrading.

Billsgate · 10-23-2004, 04:43 PM

I would either stick to pictus cats or to the sharks together with black ghost and fire eel........just my opinion............but then again, i don't own them either.

I did hear from someone at my [acronym:3cc56199d3="Local Fish Store"]lfs[/acronym:3cc56199d3] that these sharks can get aggresive once they feel crowded.................[acronym:3cc56199d3="Hope this helps (or) Happy to help"]HTH[/acronym:3cc56199d3]

Hutch · 10-23-2004, 04:52 PM

Well then maybe I will move the sharks in with the black knife and the eel

and then keep the pictus in my 25 [acronym:f0693ba1d3="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:f0693ba1d3] with 2 gold gouramis?

I will upgrade the eel eventually to his own tank but I have a couple years before he is wrist size

I know thats not ideal for the sharks but hopefully they don't get much bigger than 12 inches

What do ya think?

thanks for the posts - Hutch

Toirtis · 10-23-2004, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hutch

I know thats not ideal for the sharks but hopefully they don't get much bigger than 12 inches

But they do...about 30" larger than 12"......why keep them at all unless you can provide them with 2500 gallons?

deeni0z · 10-24-2004, 12:54 AM

holy smokes!

Fruitbat · 10-24-2004, 01:29 AM

Toirtis is 100% correct! There is no way to keep Iridescent Sharks (Pangasius hypophthalmus) in a 65 gallon tank for life. A 2500 gallon tank would be enough for a trio of them to be comfortable in.

Hutch · 10-24-2004, 01:36 AM

Obviously there is no way that a full grown [acronym:ff858f51c9="Identify"]ID[/acronym:ff858f51c9] shark could even fit in a 65 gallon tank. I had heard that [acronym:ff858f51c9="Identify"]ID[/acronym:ff858f51c9] sharks in aquarium rarely grow larger than 12" and even in 600+ gallon aquarium rarely reach larger than 18".

Stunting a fish's growth is never good but maybe if I can give them a stunted but decent home it will be better than what they end up with if I return them to pets mart?

amphibianboy528 · 10-24-2004, 02:50 AM

is an id shark a asian shark catfish?

Toirtis · 10-24-2004, 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hutch

I had heard that [acronym:20fa4487c0="Identify"]ID[/acronym:20fa4487c0] sharks in aquarium rarely grow larger than 12" and even in 600+ gallon aquarium rarely reach larger than 18".

More of a case of rarely survive to grow past 12"......most bash themselves to death or jump out by that size. I have, however, seen quite a few IDs make it to 24"+ in home aquaria.

10-23-2004, 04:38 PM	#1
Hutch Aquarium Advice Regular Join Date: May 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 58	Would this tank work? I was wondering if this tank would work out and if not what the problems would be? 65 [acronym:1cf74d1727="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:1cf74d1727] with adaquate heating and filistar XP2 and Aquarclear 200 2 [acronym:1cf74d1727="Identify"]ID[/acronym:1cf74d1727] sharks 2 Pictus Cats 1 Black Ghost Knife 1 Fire Eel I think im overcrowding a bit but Im not sure how much?

10-23-2004, 04:42 PM	#2
Toirtis Aquarium Advice Addict Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Posts: 6,768	[acronym:f42e627d81="Identify"]ID[/acronym:f42e627d81] sharks get to over 40" long, and will start bashing their heads in on the tank ends (and jumping like crazy) once they reach 12"-14" or so. The fire eel will eventually hit 36" (and thick like your wrist), although it will take some time....but they are escape artists extrordinare, so your tank will need to be very secure. So, the latter three species until the eel needs upgrading. __________________ G. A. Christian Bilou, Zoologist/Writer Founder/Director, Reptile Rescue Alberta Vice-President, Calgary Aquarium Society www.calgaryaquariumsociety.com Polypterid/Primitive Fish/Ctenopoma/Catfish Fanatic 62 Aquariums, 2200+ total gallons, Aquarist since 1971.

10-24-2004, 12:54 AM	#6
deeni0z Aquarium Advice Freak Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: San Fernando Valley/Northridge Area, CA Posts: 239	holy smokes! __________________ This is Major Tom to Ground Control I'm stepping through the door And I'm floating in the most peculiar way And the stars look very different today

10-24-2004, 01:29 AM	#7
Fruitbat Aquarium Advice Addict Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Garland,Texas Posts: 1,818 Images: 30	Toirtis is 100% correct! There is no way to keep Iridescent Sharks (Pangasius hypophthalmus) in a 65 gallon tank for life. A 2500 gallon tank would be enough for a trio of them to be comfortable in. __________________ Loaches: Botia almorhae, B. kubotai, B. striata, Noemacheilus triangularis, Schistura sp.aff.nicholsi, S. vinciguerre, Sinibotia robusta, Vaillantella maassi Bichirs: Polypterus senegalus, P. senegalus (albino), P. delhezi, P. sp. 'Congo', P. palmas polli, P.weeksii, P. ornatipinnis, P. palmas buettikoferi, P. retropinnis, P. endlicheri congicus, Polypterus bichir lapradei, P. palmas palmas, Erpetoichthys calabaricus Anabantids: Ctenopoma acutirostre, Ct. ocellatum, Ct. oxyrhynchum, Ct. kingsleyae, Microctenopoma ansorgii, Mct. fasciolatum, Trichogaster trichopterus, Belontia signata, B. hasselti, Anabas testudineus, Macropodus opercularis, Betta splendens Catfish: Dekeyseria sp. (L-052)Sturiosoma panamense, Hypancistrus inspector (L-201), Synodontis eupterus, Synodontis nigrita, Synodontis brichardi, Synodontis soloni, Anaspidoglanis macrostoma Barbs/Rasboras: Capoeta tetrazona, Rasbora borapetensis, Labeo cyclorhynchus Tetras: Phenacogrammus interruptus Other: Xenomystus nigri, Papyrocranus afer, Pantodon buchholzi, Oxymormyrus boulengeri, Protopterus annectens andPhractolaemus ansorgei

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10-23-2004, 04:43 PM	#3
Billsgate Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,604 Images: 8	I would either stick to pictus cats or to the sharks together with black ghost and fire eel........just my opinion............but then again, i don't own them either. I did hear from someone at my [acronym:3cc56199d3="Local Fish Store"]lfs[/acronym:3cc56199d3] that these sharks can get aggresive once they feel crowded.................[acronym:3cc56199d3="Hope this helps (or) Happy to help"]HTH[/acronym:3cc56199d3]

10-23-2004, 04:52 PM	#4
Hutch Aquarium Advice Regular Join Date: May 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 58	Well then maybe I will move the sharks in with the black knife and the eel and then keep the pictus in my 25 [acronym:f0693ba1d3="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:f0693ba1d3] with 2 gold gouramis? I will upgrade the eel eventually to his own tank but I have a couple years before he is wrist size I know thats not ideal for the sharks but hopefully they don't get much bigger than 12 inches What do ya think? thanks for the posts - Hutch

10-24-2004, 01:36 AM	#8
Hutch Aquarium Advice Regular Join Date: May 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 58	Obviously there is no way that a full grown [acronym:ff858f51c9="Identify"]ID[/acronym:ff858f51c9] shark could even fit in a 65 gallon tank. I had heard that [acronym:ff858f51c9="Identify"]ID[/acronym:ff858f51c9] sharks in aquarium rarely grow larger than 12" and even in 600+ gallon aquarium rarely reach larger than 18". Stunting a fish's growth is never good but maybe if I can give them a stunted but decent home it will be better than what they end up with if I return them to pets mart?

10-24-2004, 02:50 AM	#9
amphibianboy528 Aquarium Advice Freak Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Jose CA Posts: 236	is an id shark a asian shark catfish?

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