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Old 06-08-2010, 10:08 PM   #51
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yeah but the xenia needs phosphates to grow fast like that, so does the hair algae, cyano etc.... You may be phosphate limited now, with available nitrates, but when the nitrates come under control you may find yourself in the opposite position. It is a shame anyway to see someone who does the work have to struggle with nutrient issues. But I with signs like cyano and fast growing xenia I would make sure to be hitting the phosphates as well as the nitrates like you are going to do, so you don't trade one issue for another. (What could happen is you get the nitrates down to zero, creating a nitrate limited system, and then see readable phosphates). It all has to do with Liebig's Law, it is pretty straightforward and well explained on wikipedia if you are so inclined.
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yeah but the xenia needs phosphates to grow fast like that, so does the hair algae, cyano etc.... You may be phosphate limited now, with available nitrates, but when the nitrates come under control you may find yourself in the opposite position. It is a shame anyway to see someone who does the work have to struggle with nutrient issues. But I with signs like cyano and fast growing xenia I would make sure to be hitting the phosphates as well as the nitrates like you are going to do, so you don't trade one issue for another. (What could happen is you get the nitrates down to zero, creating a nitrate limited system, and then see readable phosphates). It all has to do with Liebig's Law, it is pretty straightforward and well explained on wikipedia if you are so inclined.
What do you suggest i try?
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i think you are doing pretty much all you can. bleaching buckets? that is pretty much the all you can do approach. phosphate absorbent material, algae growth etc.. will all help but they all take time and you seem to be doing everything already...are you turkey baster blasting your rocks?
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yes i am but there are still areas I have missed and have noticed some build up and plan on taking some rock out a little at a time and scrub them. I also have 15lbs of rubble rock cycling to add to my sump
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well as long as you arent feeding phyto, rinsing your frozen foods and such i guess there isnt much more you can do
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I have a special glass that never gets washed with soap only rinsed out I have some small coffee filters that fit on top nicely then put a rubberband around to hold and put the frozen food on and then use RO/DI water to thaw and let the water run thru the filter to wash out the phosphates. However I just thought of something I also switch between pellets and flake. Maybe I should rinse them too?
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nah...sounds fine what you are doing...
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started this fight in Sept or Oct I hope it stops soon! Thanks for all your help!
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oh wow...
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when i started Nitrates were at 160ppm +
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