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The_Tominater · 01-13-2004, 09:06 PM

i dont want a pond that is in the ground i was think of building an above ground pond

ok here is my design

5 foot wide 9 foot long 3 foot high
2inch by 2inch square tubing frame
1inch by 2inch rectangle tubing for vertical supports
inside the frame grinded down sheet medal so there isnt any sharp edges
all welded except for the corners those will be bolted to gether
a 45 mil rectangle linner to go inside
dirt under neath to add support
pebbles to go in the bottom about 4 inches deep
add some plants (thinking)
add some fish (thinking)
some trees that hang over the pond
i need a cooling system for my pond
it is supposed to get on average 115 degrees in arizona

lori_z3a · 01-14-2004, 10:12 AM

preciousmoments - I think you posted in the wrong place , I was asking questions on wall build up and waterfall photos - nothing about goldfish - but thanks anyway.

The_Tominator - there is a thread that was started under your name - of you want help , that is where you would post your questions - some one will get back with an answer for you in there,this thread is about me wanting to know if my plans for building up the sides will work and photos on waterfalls. But you should know I have read that maybe under ground will help keep your pond cooler with some of the pond also above ground - I think but like I said if you post this in your own thread it might get answered fastered.

Have fun with your pond - I know I love mine.I just need to tweek it up some.

Bernie · 01-14-2004, 09:01 PM

Ahh yes, I was getting a bit confused as to who or what we were talking about
there ([acronym:bb5841e35f="Laughing out loud"]LOL[/acronym:bb5841e35f]!).

lori....

I posted in another thread also about the fact that any "above ground" portions
should be insulated; insulation takes care of both cold AND heat...if done properly
and thick enough!! Also plant cover does remarkably well for keeping water
temps within range.... as does aeration (fountains, etc).

A note when installing liners.....be carfeul to NOT fully secure your liner until
after at least 2/3 of the water is in. It must be loaded initially in stages...so
that your liner can "give" or properly setlle when the weight of the water is
applied!!

Also.... wasn't completely following what or how you intended to use the sheet metal??? I'd look long and hard at any use of cut metal (grinded off or not);
would prob suggest a number of other materials depending on exactly how you
were intending to use it!??

Bernie

lori_z3a · 01-15-2004, 11:22 AM

Bernie - do not know where you read sheet metal - would never use that by or on my pond - as for insulating I will be doing that just as an extra safety for liner - I already read loads about filling liner but thank you anyways - I only fill my pond very slowly since I use well water and I have it going through filter media since my iron in the water is somewhat high but not deadly to people or fish - just want to be safe.

Bernie · 01-15-2004, 03:31 PM

Ahhhh....my mistake..it was Tominator who had the design list I was looking at!!

Sorry!!

Bernie

lori_z3a · 01-15-2004, 04:17 PM

That is ok - I have noticed that he tries to high jack other threads - guess he does not understand it all yet / new bee - know what that was like

The_Tominater · 01-17-2004, 02:03 AM

im not dumb or anything i read the thread name and thought i would help her

lori_z3a · 01-17-2004, 10:38 AM

Tominator - everyone needs help at one time or another , no one is dumb - and everyone helps. All you have to do is ask and they will try and answer - this site to what I can see is very quiet and needs all the input it gets - there is not to many new post here - guess they are all at the koivet forum. Even they have posts that tend to stay the same,but every once in a while things do pick up there and here.Keep in mind it is kind of the off season for ponds and most people right now are making plans or asking about their indoor ponds or aquarium setups.

Everyone can use new ideas that is what keeps us all thinking and going till summer finally arrives - Here in canada we can only dream because of all the snow that is outside, to cold to dig or even venture out.

01-14-2004, 09:01 PM	#33
Bernie Aquarium Advice Freak Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Tennessee Posts: 182	Ahh yes, I was getting a bit confused as to who or what we were talking about there ([acronym:bb5841e35f="Laughing out loud"]LOL[/acronym:bb5841e35f]!). lori.... I posted in another thread also about the fact that any "above ground" portions should be insulated; insulation takes care of both cold AND heat...if done properly and thick enough!! Also plant cover does remarkably well for keeping water temps within range.... as does aeration (fountains, etc). A note when installing liners.....be carfeul to NOT fully secure your liner until after at least 2/3 of the water is in. It must be loaded initially in stages...so that your liner can "give" or properly setlle when the weight of the water is applied!! Also.... wasn't completely following what or how you intended to use the sheet metal??? I'd look long and hard at any use of cut metal (grinded off or not); would prob suggest a number of other materials depending on exactly how you were intending to use it!?? Bernie __________________ Bernie click to see my stores: Bio spira/OmegaOne/PondKits/Greenhouses & more http://www.fishstoretn.com _________________________ Next REGIONAL "Gathering" tbd in January 2005 @ The FISH STORE Everyone is WELCOME!! JOIN US @http://www.aquatic-enterprises.com/TNAS/TNAS.htm

01-15-2004, 03:31 PM	#35
Bernie Aquarium Advice Freak Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Tennessee Posts: 182	Ahhhh....my mistake..it was Tominator who had the design list I was looking at!! Sorry!! Bernie __________________ Bernie click to see my stores: Bio spira/OmegaOne/PondKits/Greenhouses & more http://www.fishstoretn.com _________________________ Next REGIONAL "Gathering" tbd in January 2005 @ The FISH STORE Everyone is WELCOME!! JOIN US @http://www.aquatic-enterprises.com/TNAS/TNAS.htm

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01-13-2004, 09:06 PM	#31
The_Tominater Aquarium Advice Apprentice Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 26	i dont want a pond that is in the ground i was think of building an above ground pond ok here is my design 5 foot wide 9 foot long 3 foot high 2inch by 2inch square tubing frame 1inch by 2inch rectangle tubing for vertical supports inside the frame grinded down sheet medal so there isnt any sharp edges all welded except for the corners those will be bolted to gether a 45 mil rectangle linner to go inside dirt under neath to add support pebbles to go in the bottom about 4 inches deep add some plants (thinking) add some fish (thinking) some trees that hang over the pond i need a cooling system for my pond it is supposed to get on average 115 degrees in arizona

01-14-2004, 10:12 AM	#32
lori_z3a Aquarium Advice Regular Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Beausejour ,Canada,Manitoba Posts: 54	preciousmoments - I think you posted in the wrong place , I was asking questions on wall build up and waterfall photos - nothing about goldfish - but thanks anyway. The_Tominator - there is a thread that was started under your name - of you want help , that is where you would post your questions - some one will get back with an answer for you in there,this thread is about me wanting to know if my plans for building up the sides will work and photos on waterfalls. But you should know I have read that maybe under ground will help keep your pond cooler with some of the pond also above ground - I think but like I said if you post this in your own thread it might get answered fastered. Have fun with your pond - I know I love mine.I just need to tweek it up some.

01-15-2004, 11:22 AM	#34
lori_z3a Aquarium Advice Regular Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Beausejour ,Canada,Manitoba Posts: 54	Bernie - do not know where you read sheet metal - would never use that by or on my pond - as for insulating I will be doing that just as an extra safety for liner - I already read loads about filling liner but thank you anyways - I only fill my pond very slowly since I use well water and I have it going through filter media since my iron in the water is somewhat high but not deadly to people or fish - just want to be safe.

01-15-2004, 04:17 PM	#36
lori_z3a Aquarium Advice Regular Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Beausejour ,Canada,Manitoba Posts: 54	That is ok - I have noticed that he tries to high jack other threads - guess he does not understand it all yet / new bee - know what that was like

01-17-2004, 02:03 AM	#37
The_Tominater Aquarium Advice Apprentice Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 26	im not dumb or anything i read the thread name and thought i would help her

01-17-2004, 10:38 AM	#38
lori_z3a Aquarium Advice Regular Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Beausejour ,Canada,Manitoba Posts: 54	Tominator - everyone needs help at one time or another , no one is dumb - and everyone helps. All you have to do is ask and they will try and answer - this site to what I can see is very quiet and needs all the input it gets - there is not to many new post here - guess they are all at the koivet forum. Even they have posts that tend to stay the same,but every once in a while things do pick up there and here.Keep in mind it is kind of the off season for ponds and most people right now are making plans or asking about their indoor ponds or aquarium setups. Everyone can use new ideas that is what keeps us all thinking and going till summer finally arrives - Here in canada we can only dream because of all the snow that is outside, to cold to dig or even venture out.