aquarium advice logo

Go Back   Aquarium Advice - Aquarium Forum Community > Outdoor ponds > Ponds/Water Gardens - General Discussion
Portal Register Forums Articles Gallery Reviews Sponsors FAQ Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 03-12-2005, 01:26 AM   #1
Jaxom_Ruatha
Aquarium Advice Activist
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Oregon, USA
Posts: 115
Jaxom_Ruatha has fishy dreams
Is a fountain/waterfall necessary?

Okay I have a 500 gallon pond with about 15-20 goldfish in it (commons and comets) and I really would like to take away the fountain that is disrupting the surface of the water, making it hard to see the fish and not giving the plants enough sunlight. The fountain is an extension from the filter that just pumps the clean water out in a spraying fountain straight above the water, creating lots of ripples, bubbles, etc. So my question is, if I stop the fountain frim spraying up, will there be enough oxygen in the water to keep the fish comfortable? If not about how many submerged plants would I need? I already have about one bunch of anacharis plants in there, some duckweed floating about, and some lily and aponogenton bulbs down there that I don't think are getting enough sunlight to grow currently. I have looked all over but haven't found an answer to my question.

(The answer is probably really simple and right infront of my nose, but please if you can help me, help me )
Jaxom_Ruatha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2005, 03:26 AM   #2
RogerMcAllen
Aquarium Advice Addict
Moderator Emeritus
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Champaign, IL
Posts: 2,361
Images: 16
RogerMcAllen has started an aquarium
You shouldn't need it. Try leaving it off and see how it goes. If the fish don't gasp at the surface, you should be fine, though some form of surface agitation would be nice.
RogerMcAllen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2005, 10:40 AM   #3
AngelFishFan
Aquarium Advice Activist
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Latrobe, PA
Posts: 162
Images: 2
AngelFishFan has fishy dreams
Send a message via AIM to AngelFishFan
Excellent question. As Roger stated, you shouldn't need it, HOWEVER, if you ever add algaefix, you WILL need it. See, algaefix reduces the number of oxygen particles in the water, making it harder for the fish to breath, and just as Roger stated, they will start to gasp. Also, if you take that out, the water lillies should actually grow better, since they hate water agitation to begin with. Adding some more anacharis, and maybe some parrots feather wont hurt, though may not be entirely necessary. Experiment around! You never know until you try!
__________________
-Keegan
AngelFishFan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2005, 01:54 PM   #4
Jaxom_Ruatha
Aquarium Advice Activist
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Oregon, USA
Posts: 115
Jaxom_Ruatha has fishy dreams
Thanks a bunch, I'll try just that.

Any suggestion on where is a good place t order aquatic plants from? All my [acronym:03ed6e42df="Local Fish Store"]lfs[/acronym:03ed6e42df] carry are anacharis and sword plants which probably wont survive in my pond (The sowrd plants that is).
Jaxom_Ruatha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2005, 02:35 PM   #5
RogerMcAllen
Aquarium Advice Addict
Moderator Emeritus
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Champaign, IL
Posts: 2,361
Images: 16
RogerMcAllen has started an aquarium
www.tricker.com has some outstanding plants and lillies.
RogerMcAllen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2005, 02:37 PM   #6
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
You need more SAV (submerged aquatic vegetation).
For a plant to actually help with oxygenating, it must be a trues SAV, not a plant that will have leaves on or above the surface.
Anacharis is a good start, but you'll need more than one bunch. Jungle val is great, and overwinters just as well as anacharis or elodea. Parrots feather isn't that great, [acronym:872390baab="In my opinion"]IMO[/acronym:872390baab]. It prefers to grow up out of the water, at which point it stops oxegenating the water.

Check the Retailers Forum, any of the plant companies sell both aquarium and pond plants.

If you want to buy local, check out the plant nurseries, a lot of them are selling pond plants these days. Heck, just check your yellow pages for Pond plants, or pond supplies. You'll likely find somebody.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2005, 04:51 PM   #7
Jaxom_Ruatha
Aquarium Advice Activist
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Oregon, USA
Posts: 115
Jaxom_Ruatha has fishy dreams
Thanks for the advice
__________________
540 gallon outdoor pond with:
4 weather loaches
18 commons/comets
5 orandas
5-20 mosquito fish
Jaxom_Ruatha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2005, 05:12 PM   #8
boroughmal
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Ireland
Posts: 19
boroughmal has fishy dreams
For aeriation all the time you really should think about a waterfall.
I have one with four ponds each tipping into each other. All the aeriation you need after the first six week start up.
Dont leave aeriation to chance. In heavy weather low pressure water loses up oxygen rapidly and you could be caught out by this and lose your fish.
A slow waterfall at the last drop will trickle into the pond and not disturb the water
Goldfish are very hardy but even they die.
|Regards
__________________
Malcolm@fishkeepingsupplies.com for all aquarium & fish supply tropical & pond
boroughmal is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
KOI IN A FOUNTAIN martinc9090 Ponds/Water Gardens - General Discussion 4 04-27-2007 03:48 PM
Pacific Reef in Fountain Valley Grade A+++ reefmaster General Retailers 0 09-05-2006 01:44 AM
fountain pump experiment gone wrong tonight lol Jaymz_Eric DIY Projects 2 01-12-2006 03:37 PM
Fountain question BlueCrystalMan Ponds/Water Gardens - General Discussion 1 08-10-2004 10:17 PM
Waterfall! d9hp Ponds/Water Gardens - General Discussion 3 05-04-2003 12:39 PM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:47 AM.



Other Social Knowledge forum communities:
Cooking Forum - Sailing Forum - Early Retirement - Airstream Trailer - Aquarium Forum - Royal Forum - Book Forum - Volkswagen Touareg Forum - Jeep Wrangler Forum - Whitewater Kayaking & Rafting Forum - Fiberglass RV Forum - RV Forum - Truck Conversion - U2 Music Forum
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0