new pond - Aquarium Advice

fishstixs05 · 09-20-2003, 11:45 PM

I have never had a pond before, and i want to do this one right. I have an idea of using an already built planter box . Its deminsions are 83x48x12, and each side is made of two six inch peicesof wood. I want to dig it down a further 6 to 12 in. and put ling on it. What are your guys advice on the idea, filter, plants, substrate, sigh and all the rest that i need to no. [acronym:a81c1c4e66="Thanks in Advance"]TIA[/acronym:a81c1c4e66]!

RogerMcAllen · 09-21-2003, 03:22 AM

I would make the pond at least 2-3 foot deep for starters, and make it as big as you think you will ever want it. I had that problem and ended up with 2 new ponds.

fishstixs05 · 09-21-2003, 12:47 PM

The problem with that is my ground is like solid rock around here.

RogerMcAllen · 09-21-2003, 01:34 PM

I think you were already saying that you would do this, but I have heard of people building boxes above a whole they put in the ground and have a pond that is basically above ground. You would need to know that it was done by someone knowledgeable enough to make a box that could hold back all of that water.

fishstixs05 · 09-21-2003, 04:15 PM

What is the best type of filter for this setup, and any cool ideas for it?

RogerMcAllen · 09-21-2003, 05:34 PM

One word, waterfall.

fishstixs05 · 09-24-2003, 11:30 PM

The area i might put the pond is directly under an oak, any way to keep it from filling up with leves, or any ways to get them out?

RogerMcAllen · 09-25-2003, 12:52 AM

You can put netting over the pond to keep them out, or what I do is just skim constantly. Make sure you get leaves out quickly in the fall or your water turns to tea.

fishstixs05 · 10-02-2003, 10:48 PM

how powerful of a pump do i need for my filter and my waterfall?

Scottw68TN · 10-13-2003, 12:15 PM

This sounds like a good thread to hijack! I have all the same questions as well.
My friend gave me what I think is a 300 gallon rubbermaid pond and a liner (roughly 4.5x3x3). I have a Rio 1400 to use or a 2100 (if its neccesary).
I have an idea for a filter on the bottom. I have a rubber maid box about the size of a shoe box. I want to drill the top full of holes run some [acronym:0757eeb1b1="Plastic pipe"]pvc[/acronym:0757eeb1b1] in it put poly fiber in it and attach it to the pump. I will coat it in silicone and roll it in river rock as well to hide it. run the pump up to a little rock structure and the water path will follow a little 2foot or so rapids down to the pond. Sound like a plan? Oddly enough I've never even seen a pond setup before so this is only thoeretical for me. Sound like a plan?
1. Will the waterfall act as biological filter if I run it down river rock a foot or two?
2. Should I throw some bioballs into the eqation somewhere.
3. Should I use the drain at the bottom to run my plumbing or is it better to just
run it up the side and try to hide it? (I know this ones an opinion question)

09-20-2003, 11:45 PM	#1
fishstixs05 Aquarium Advice Freak Join Date: May 2003 Location: El Dorado Hills, CA Posts: 458 Images: 14	new pond I have never had a pond before, and i want to do this one right. I have an idea of using an already built planter box . Its deminsions are 83x48x12, and each side is made of two six inch peicesof wood. I want to dig it down a further 6 to 12 in. and put ling on it. What are your guys advice on the idea, filter, plants, substrate, sigh and all the rest that i need to no. [acronym:a81c1c4e66="Thanks in Advance"]TIA[/acronym:a81c1c4e66]! __________________ In the Sacramento Area, join Marine Aquarium Rountable of Sacramento at www.marineaquarist.org or the Sacramento Aquarium Society at www.sacramentoaquariumsociety.org

09-21-2003, 03:22 AM	#2
RogerMcAllen Aquarium Advice Addict Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Champaign, IL Posts: 2,361 Images: 16	I would make the pond at least 2-3 foot deep for starters, and make it as big as you think you will ever want it. I had that problem and ended up with 2 new ponds. __________________ Have your reviewed your aquarium products yet?

09-21-2003, 12:47 PM	#3
fishstixs05 Aquarium Advice Freak Join Date: May 2003 Location: El Dorado Hills, CA Posts: 458 Images: 14	The problem with that is my ground is like solid rock around here. __________________ In the Sacramento Area, join Marine Aquarium Rountable of Sacramento at www.marineaquarist.org or the Sacramento Aquarium Society at www.sacramentoaquariumsociety.org

09-21-2003, 01:34 PM	#4
RogerMcAllen Aquarium Advice Addict Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Champaign, IL Posts: 2,361 Images: 16	I think you were already saying that you would do this, but I have heard of people building boxes above a whole they put in the ground and have a pond that is basically above ground. You would need to know that it was done by someone knowledgeable enough to make a box that could hold back all of that water. __________________ Have your reviewed your aquarium products yet?

09-21-2003, 05:34 PM	#6
RogerMcAllen Aquarium Advice Addict Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Champaign, IL Posts: 2,361 Images: 16	One word, waterfall. __________________ Have your reviewed your aquarium products yet?

09-21-2003, 04:15 PM	#5
fishstixs05 Aquarium Advice Freak Join Date: May 2003 Location: El Dorado Hills, CA Posts: 458 Images: 14	What is the best type of filter for this setup, and any cool ideas for it?

09-24-2003, 11:30 PM	#7
fishstixs05 Aquarium Advice Freak Join Date: May 2003 Location: El Dorado Hills, CA Posts: 458 Images: 14	The area i might put the pond is directly under an oak, any way to keep it from filling up with leves, or any ways to get them out? __________________ In the Sacramento Area, join Marine Aquarium Rountable of Sacramento at www.marineaquarist.org or the Sacramento Aquarium Society at www.sacramentoaquariumsociety.org

09-25-2003, 12:52 AM	#8
RogerMcAllen Aquarium Advice Addict Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Champaign, IL Posts: 2,361 Images: 16	You can put netting over the pond to keep them out, or what I do is just skim constantly. Make sure you get leaves out quickly in the fall or your water turns to tea. __________________ Have your reviewed your aquarium products yet?

10-02-2003, 10:48 PM	#9
fishstixs05 Aquarium Advice Freak Join Date: May 2003 Location: El Dorado Hills, CA Posts: 458 Images: 14	how powerful of a pump do i need for my filter and my waterfall? __________________ In the Sacramento Area, join Marine Aquarium Rountable of Sacramento at www.marineaquarist.org or the Sacramento Aquarium Society at www.sacramentoaquariumsociety.org

10-13-2003, 12:15 PM	#10
Scottw68TN Aquarium Advice FINatic Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Nashville Posts: 519 Images: 10	This sounds like a good thread to hijack! I have all the same questions as well. My friend gave me what I think is a 300 gallon rubbermaid pond and a liner (roughly 4.5x3x3). I have a Rio 1400 to use or a 2100 (if its neccesary). I have an idea for a filter on the bottom. I have a rubber maid box about the size of a shoe box. I want to drill the top full of holes run some [acronym:0757eeb1b1="Plastic pipe"]pvc[/acronym:0757eeb1b1] in it put poly fiber in it and attach it to the pump. I will coat it in silicone and roll it in river rock as well to hide it. run the pump up to a little rock structure and the water path will follow a little 2foot or so rapids down to the pond. Sound like a plan? Oddly enough I've never even seen a pond setup before so this is only thoeretical for me. Sound like a plan? 1. Will the waterfall act as biological filter if I run it down river rock a foot or two? 2. Should I throw some bioballs into the eqation somewhere. 3. Should I use the drain at the bottom to run my plumbing or is it better to just run it up the side and try to hide it? (I know this ones an opinion question) __________________ 75g. Emperor 400 + Penguin 330 1 Plec 4 Danios 4 BS Tetras 8 Tiger Barbs 8 Var.Platys 6 Lemon tetras 3 Yo-Yos 1 Dojo 15 Var.Mollies 2 Blue Rams 3 Cories / 55g. African Cichlid Tank / 10g. QT breeder Snails / 5.5g. Cycling scott.b.wellbrock@bellsouth.com

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