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Old 04-20-2014, 02:58 AM   #11
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I did not mean cycle without water lol, I meant cycling the RO water, then doing the large water change like a freshwater tank, then adding the mixed saltwater to the cycled tank (I' m only asking because of saving costs on the initial salt) as I thought you needed to do a big water change after the cycle, then I would have to spend another 160 on salt after draining all that cycled salt water....and I don't know if its different bacteria that grow using saltwater compared to fresh, If that makes sense.....you say I wont need to do the big water change so I will just use the salt water and there's no worries haha, unless someone else had a different opinion on this
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Old 04-20-2014, 03:00 AM   #12
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What's a nem? and yes I did mention a sump......
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Old 04-20-2014, 03:01 AM   #13
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Ha I ment to say without salt water you will
Need to do a large water change but no more then 50%
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Old 04-20-2014, 03:02 AM   #14
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Ah yes you did! Good a nem is Anenome!
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Old 04-20-2014, 03:06 AM   #15
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Ah I see, well I hope to add on an extra LED fixture to help add to the lighting in the future, I might wait until later when I get that for an anemone then.
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You can't cycle with fw. That would kill all the beneficial bacteria and life on your rocks. A sw tank requires sw to function. Otherwise you're just cycling a fw tank
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I am using dry live rock to cycle not live rock, so there is no beneficial bacteria on it yet, I do realise if I tried cycling something that has been living in saltwater with fresh I would kill it :P but yea I will use the saltwater anyway
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Old 04-20-2014, 09:08 AM   #18
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Yes definitely cycle with saltwater. Also I think that return pump is way too big, unless you mean 3200 liters per hour which is something like 900 gph which would be fine. The link to the powerheads only pulls up the store page, not the actual powerheads but I would shoot for 30 x tank volume which is 3300 gph.
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Yea its 3600 litres per hour sorry, we mainly use litres here in Australia. Oh well they are called Aquael Reef Circulator power heads which are 2600 litres per hour each, so does that mean I have 8800 litres per hour flow in my tank?, and 30 times 400 is 12000 so I am a bit under that. Do I need bigger power heads? or will that be ok? Where is the best place to put them in the tank? opposite corners aiming up a bit at each other? I would obviously love the Tunze or those Votech ones so I can do random flow....but that's out of my price range at the moment.
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Old 04-20-2014, 11:58 AM   #20
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That would be fine you can always add more later. Another option to look at is the jaebo wp40 they go up to 2000 gph and create random flow. I just added one and am very happy with the flow one negative is it's rather large.

As for your tang question most people say they need 6 feet wide minimum but a lot of people put yellow tangs in 4 ft tanks. I would not attempt the blue, however. I would recommend you do a kole and/or tomini tang as the yellows are difficult to keep alive even for experienced aquarists.
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