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Old 09-12-2005, 12:22 PM   #11
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Magnaflow,

It sounds like you are more interested in a display tank than nano system. If that is the case then I would suggest you scrap the 15gal idea as well. It can still be used for other things like a QT tank for smaller fish.

Before you go get that 55gal I would suggest you look at getting the largest tank you can afford with 75gal being the smallest. A 55gal can definately work and many have done it, but I think once you get going you will find yourself limited. I am there now with my 75gal and looking to upgrade.

Actually, the larger the SW system is the easier it is to maintain because of the larger water volume, not to mentio you can have more variety of live stock.

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Old 09-12-2005, 12:59 PM   #12
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the only big thing as in $$ is the filtration and different pumps. Not to sure what you use or buy but from what I hear its a lot of $$
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Old 09-12-2005, 01:30 PM   #13
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It is expensive to get started if you do not have anything already. Check out my sinature for what I use on my 75gal. I went the inexpensive route. My set up in not reef though as I do not keep live corals and still do not have proper lighting (way expensive$$$). I had the canister from FW days. The largest purchase I made to convert my 75gal from FW to SW was the Bak Pak 2 filter/protien skimmer which currently goes for around $120-150.

I guess my point is that the set up costs are not going to be much more from a 55-75. If you go much bigger I would probably go with a sump filtration system which is pricy($300 +).
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Old 09-12-2005, 02:24 PM   #14
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so say I go another 55 gallon I can use the filter it comes with and the light just buy a skimmer? what about gravel and stuff all the same? My buddy said "mushroom coral?? or something will grow fine in the tanks without proper lights.
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Old 09-12-2005, 05:16 PM   #15
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I do not keep corals due to the fact that I do not have enough lighting even with 130Watts. Yes, there are some corals that do not require intense light, but you still need to do your research and make sure you have enough.

Are you planning on buying a 55Gal kit? If so the bulb will need to be replaced and more lighting added. I am guessing any filter that comes with it will be undersized and not appropriate for SW.

If I were setting up a 55Gal FOWLR I would probably still use the same filtration I have on my 75Gal which is a 350 mag canister filter and a Bak Pak 2 filter and protein skimmer.

That is why I suggest for the extra $20-30 and upgrade to at least a 75G which also provides 6" more depth for the fish and aquascaping.

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BTW, it is suggested to have 3-5 WPG for lighting for a reef tank. Even with lower light coral you probably still need 2 WPG. Most 48"strip lights are only 40 watts.

So, even if you add a 2nd light you are still only at 80 watts unless you upgrade to PC, MH or something else which can be costly. This is the primary reason I do not keep corals. I just cannot bring myself to spend $300-400 for lights.

Itell you this not to discourage you. With what I do have I still get some nice colaration on my LR and have successfully kept 3 rock flower anenome. There are still a lot of possibilities with a FOWLR set up.

Just be prepared for the sticker shock of lighting if you do plan to go the live coral route.
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Old 09-12-2005, 06:57 PM   #17
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live rock it is for now lol.. any chance you can send me soem link to get the right filters? skimmer and stuff.. no idea what they look liek when I go to price them
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Old 09-12-2005, 07:04 PM   #18
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Bak Pak 2:

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...09&N=2004+2032

350 mag Canister filter:

http://www.thatpetplace.com/MainPro/...=F22+0221+0185

Power heads (I added sponged to mine)

http://www.just4fish.com/mall/marinelandpowerheads.asp

Again this is just what I use. Others may have different ideas.

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thansk this gives me a some idea what to look for. I think I might just stick with my Fw for now and buy parts to set up a SW then get the tank once I got it all
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Old 09-13-2005, 03:51 PM   #20
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what type of rock can you use or sand. Assuming normal fish rocks dont cut it. I heard there liek $50 a bag.. Canadian of course
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