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Old 10-05-2006, 03:02 PM   #11
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I see alot of people recommending snails. I dont mind them, I just dont want 50 million of them, like I see in some peoples tanks. What else can I use for a clean up crew? I dont really want stars or cucumbers.
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I see alot of people recommending snails. I dont mind them, I just dont want 50 million of them, like I see in some peoples tanks. What else can I use for a clean up crew? I dont really want stars or cucumbers.
Hmmm, that kind of limits you. I only have about 20 snails, I just have to scrape the glass a little more. I like urchins, watch the pencils if you are going reef, they will move rocks, sometimes. I also have a pincushion, he is neat and ends up carrying around a few snails/old hydrometer/cyano/sand/shells/algae and any other thing he wants.
My next urchin will be one of these:
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...cfm?pCatId=595
You could go with a bristle star, most of them generally feed at night and you won't see much f them. You could go with a sand sifting goby like these from liveaquaria:
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/categ.cfm?pCatId=31
I would still have some snails, I was a little reluctant at first, but you get used to them and the start looking kinda neat.
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Old 10-05-2006, 04:28 PM   #13
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ya the hermits just didnt do anything for me besides kill snails which actually work. If the hermits would actually clean, then i wouldnt be so mad about em'...but they dont.

But the snails...to be honest, you dont really notice them that much. There will usually be a few on the glass yes, but once they start going on the rocks, you could be looking right at one and not know it. Specially if you've had them for a while, cuz they get coraline growing on them and just blend in with the rock. I've got about 60 of the small astrea snails in my 55 and seriously, they look like the rock untill they move. Oh, and i had this snail that was completely white (its shell)...dont know what kind it was, but the shell was a very bright white....looked horrible in the tank lol. But eventually it turned solid purple/green/and i think theres a bit of other coraline colors in there too...but a hermit crab ended up killing the snail for its shell...i've still got it, so if you want a pic of what it looks like now (after only 3 months) then i'd be more than happy to get a quick picture for you.
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Old 10-05-2006, 10:37 PM   #14
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I am always up for a good pic.

I think I will be placing an order with liveaquaria in the next few days. Any suggestions for a good clean up crew (i.e. what combo of snail/shrimp/hermits/whatever else). I want to start small (my tank hasn't been running all that long). Also if it means anything I am running NO floreuscent lights.
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for your tank, i'd say go with 10 cerith snails, 10 astreas, 10 nassarius, and maybe 4 or 5 turbo snails. If you want, you could switch out the astreas for the trochus..i hear they're very similar..or you could just get both i spose lol. Just stay away from margarita snails, cuz they're a temperate species, meaning they live in cooler water, so they often die in our tanks...they are in warmer water for like 3 months out of the year tho.

I'll try to get that pic in a little bit here.
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here's the hermit crab that stole the shell from that snail...this shell is completely white...under all the layers of coraline that have grown in just the last 2 months lol.

oh, and heres a picture of a hermit crab trying to kill an astrea in that same nano tank.
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Nice pictures, I will see what liveaquaria has. Thanks for the info.
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lol they would have been nicer if the camera would have stopped focusing on the stupid coraline lol. But even that astrea snail thats about to get killed...he was white when i got him.

oh, a good place to order inverts and snails from is reeftopia.com
We got a local reef group/club deally and we recently did a group buy and i ended up paying 24 dollars for 60 astreas, an extra large peppermint, and an emerald crab...if i was to buy that at the lfs i'd be paying more than double (the snails are like 89 cents local, and the peppermints are about 9 and the emerald was like 8 in stores here i think...snails were 24 cents each, crab was like 3 or 4 bucks and same with the peppermint.

buying in bulk is the way to go...so if you can find a bunch of locals by you, try to set something up.
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