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Old 11-29-2012, 01:10 PM   #21
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a guy at my lfs told me that because my cannister filter is rated at 250gph that I don't need any powerheads... is he correct or do I actually need them?

also picked up a stand yesterday so either today or tomorrow I'm going to picking up the water and live and base rock so I can finally start cycling . Naturally I have a few questions before I do so ...

I have 45lbs of sand that I of course will rinse before putting it in the tank. When I begin rinsing/cleaning the sand can I use tap water or just go ahead and use saltwater?

When I actually start filling the tank up do I put the sand in first and then the water or put the water in first then add the sand? do I add the rock when the tank is about half full or does that not matter? with this one I just want to know which way would be easier I guess.

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Old 11-29-2012, 01:38 PM   #22
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The gph rating of the canister will drop a little since it's lower than the tank.
If you're not doing corals just get 1 Hydor Koralia Evolution 550GPH and if you do get corals get another one.
You can rinse the sand a couple times with tap water just to get most of the dust out.
You can put your base rock in first, just the bottom pieces, then put sand in around the rock to give your rock-work a better foundation.
Fill the tank up to 3 inches from the top, start adding rock, then take out/ add water if you need to.
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Old 11-29-2012, 07:10 PM   #23
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If you plan on mixing the SW in the tank, then do that first, then after salt is dissolved, add rock then sand. Don't want undissolved salt getting stuck in the sand if you pour it on top if the sand. Also, for FOWLR it's recommended 10-30x turnover rate, for reef it's 30-50x turnover rate. So for a 30g you'll want 300-900 turnover per hour and reef 900-1500. Use the gph rate of all your equipment: PHs, filter, skimmer, etc. So if your filter right now is the only flow, I would tend to think you'll need at least 1 PH too. Good luck and welcome to the world if salt!!
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Old 11-29-2012, 08:15 PM   #24
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If you plan on mixing the SW in the tank, then do that first, then after salt is dissolved, add rock then sand. Don't want undissolved salt getting stuck in the sand if you pour it on top if the sand. Also, for FOWLR it's recommended 10-30x turnover rate, for reef it's 30-50x turnover rate. So for a 30g you'll want 300-900 turnover per hour and reef 900-1500. Use the gph rate of all your equipment: PHs, filter, skimmer, etc. So if your filter right now is the only flow, I would tend to think you'll need at least 1 PH too. Good luck and welcome to the world if salt!!
I'm going to be getting water from the ocean. there is a saltwater well that I can get water from. Its clean and luckily for me free , a few people I know have told me that that is where they get their water from and they have had no problems with it.
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Thanks for the info, its greatly appreciated. I'll be looking into PH's today when I get off work.
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I'm going to be getting water from the ocean. there is a saltwater well that I can get water from. Its clean and luckily for me free , a few people I know have told me that that is where they get their water from and they have had no problems with it.
Lucky punk!
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Wow living in Hawaii does have it's advantages! Now you don't have to walk or drive a little to get to the ocean..you have a little in your house! Following and good luck! Seems you are coming along .
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Lucky punk!
LOL I know right!! I honestly didn't believe it the first few times I heard of it but come to find out there is actually 3 places I can go and get water. 1 is from the well that I went to today, another is the aquarium in Waikiki although you have to pay for this one... only $15 I think which is not bad at all. there's a 3rd place that I can't remember off the top of my head. But I am lucky in the fact that I can pick it up for free
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Wow living in Hawaii does have it's advantages! Now you don't have to walk or drive a little to get to the ocean..you have a little in your house! Following and good luck! Seems you are coming along .
I am sooooo looking forward to having a little ocean in my place!! as a matter of fact that is exactly what I tell my friends when they tell me why don't I just go diving! lol Thanks for checking out my build!!! hopefully all goes well with it!
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After I get off work today I'm going to my lfs and buying my live and base rock and begin filling my tank. I took some notes that I scribbled on a piece of paper about doing a fishless cycle with dead shrimp... I somehow missplaced/lost it so I need some help. What do I need...besides the shrimp of course
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