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Old 06-24-2003, 03:48 PM   #1
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40 Gallon long- What fish?

Boy and I thought we were limited with the 29.

Ok with the 40 cycled we are still trying to decide what kind of fish will work in our tank. We know we are limited to 8". We eventually want it to be reef and know that it will limit as to what kind of fish to get depending on what corals we choose. We have mainly soft corals in our 29 and are thinking of going for hard corals in the 40, would love hammer or frogspawn.

As far as fish we have only decided on a yellow watchman goby, was going for a blue spot jawfish but that's a bit much $$ for a fish we'd have to order online.

Here's the ones we like:

Dwarf Flame Angel or Coral beauty, or bicolor Angel

Royal Gramma Basslet

Flame Hawkfish but not thrilled it likes to eat shrimps.



If anyone can give us some ideas, I know we could go Damsels, but we have one in our 5. Want something that has multicolor on it and personality.

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Old 06-24-2003, 04:01 PM   #2
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was going for a blue spot jawfish but that's a bit much $$ for a fish we'd have to order online
IMO, if your going to get an expensive fish....that's the way to go, most have a live arrival guarantee and a week beyond that, provided you follow their acclimation procedures. That's better than you get from alot of LFS.

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Any dwarf angel is risky in a reef, some will pick, some won't. Some will do fine for months or years and all of a sudden decide your corals are a tasty snack Take it from me, I experienced it not to long ago with my African Flameback.

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Great reef fish, although not very active. It will lurk in it's hole spot, with just it's head sticking out and come out for feedings.

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Flame Hawkfish but not thrilled it likes to eat shrimps.
This is one of my all time favorite fish, I've owned 3, and not one has ever messed with a shrimp, thats not to say they won't, but IME if the shrimp is there first and it isn't a tiny shrimp, you won't have any problems, any shrimp added after are fair game though.

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Hmmm, in addition to the flame hawk, there is the longnose hawk, dottybacks are active and colorful (should be added last, they are highly aggressive), lawnmower blennies, red lipped blennies, firefish, clowns if I think of some more, I'll post back.
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Ok, I know you dont want more clowns, but i have to say it. They are one of my favorite fish. I would say get two purple firefish... I like the watchman idea, I want one too. Maybe a banded goby, they are super tiny.
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d9hp, they are our favorites too, but we want something different, love the Hawkfish, may go that way, really want the bluedot, but 70 bucks for a fish? Guarantee or not, it's a bit out of our budget. Wouldn't we have problems with the blennies with the gobies?

We are thinking as far as crabs we may try the horseshoe crabs it will stir it up and will be easier than getting lets say a brittle to stir up the sand. Will the horseshoe bother blue legged crabs? Can we have small hermit crabs with a hawkfish?

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These fall into the catagory of should be left in the ocean. They won't hurt the crabs, but they will more than likely starve in your system. When they sift sand they are looking for food, worms and pods etc..Once they decimate the population they starve. If they don't...they get way to big for your tank, I see them all the time at the beach in excess of 24" in diameter, not including the tail.

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Ok thanks Kevin, I was looking on Saltwaterfish.com and saw the horseshoe, I guess I should have did more research before posting anything on here, good thing I found out now.

Cool about the blue legs.

Btw, I've noticed that a lot of "Reef packages" come with red legged hermits, I thought those weren't reef safe, yet everyone lists them as being reef safe.

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I have redlegs, and they dont bother anything. They are one of my favorite critters. I really wish I could get a bunch more.
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IMHO the scarlet leg hermits are safer than the blue legs. The blue legs will sometimes kill snails and other critters for their shells while the scarlets pretty much leave everything alone.

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remember that there is a difference between red leg hermits and scarlet reef hermits. (I thought they were the same for a long time)
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This is my first reply to anything here on the forum, but I thought I would give it a try. As far as some suggestions to what kind of fish might be good in reef tank, I would suggest a Mandarin goby, royal gramma basslet( which might be helpful in the event of brisstleworms, as they feed on them), bi-color goatfish, and some of the wrasses (ie bird wrasse), in addition to the others listed above. Just dont add to many bottom feeders or else they will starve as mentioned. I found out the hard way. Another suggestion as far as bottom feeaders that will rumage through your substrate and are reef safe. Is the white sand sifting starfish. They will do a better job than the brittle or serpent stars. But the disadvantage to them is that you wont see them as much, as they are usually buried in the sand.
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