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Old 12-09-2004, 12:06 AM   #11
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You've got give your tank time to cycle. You just can't throw fish in without a cycling your tank. And the Bio-Spira doesn't really work very well. Your live rock should cycle it in about two months to be safe.
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Old 12-09-2004, 12:40 AM   #12
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Well the guy at the LFS said the water was already mature and is filtered from their 2,000 gallon aquarium.And I ahve two mollies to mature the filtration bed.
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Old 12-09-2004, 08:34 PM   #13
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so I got a 40 gallon tank with a refugiemat my LFS for 200 dollars.I thought it was in expensive so I bought it.I also bought 25 lbs of cured live rock for 60 dollars and some bio-spira.Also some mature pre-mixed SW and some amphipods and coepods.Oh,and 50 lbs of live sand and has been running for 1 hour now and I checked if it was 48" lond and it was.How many days should I wait till I get the pipefish.
My bad. I'm sorry I must have overlooked that. Good Luck!!!
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Old 12-10-2004, 12:48 AM   #14
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thanks and i forgive you
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Old 12-10-2004, 06:03 PM   #15
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Is the magazine Aquarium Fish under the Reef Aquarist column?

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...glance&s=books

Keep us updated. One day I plan to start a pipefish tank, too. That is so cool!
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Old 12-10-2004, 08:39 PM   #16
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no and I'll keep you updated
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Old 12-11-2004, 02:26 AM   #17
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well sadly when i went to the LFS they did not have anymore,because they all died.It was so sad I got excited too.
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Old 12-11-2004, 12:10 PM   #18
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Sorry to hear about the pipefish but that doesn't mean you can't be prepared for when they would be avaialble again.

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Well the guy at the LFS said the water was already mature and is filtered from their 2,000 gallon aquarium.And I ahve two mollies to mature the filtration bed.
Your LFS may have the water he says but it will by no means help in cycling/maturing a tank. The proper bacteria required for the nitrogen cycle will not be transfered via water. Only hard surface materials from an established system will do that and even then still require time to populate and mature the system. Even if adding fish (which I would never recommend) will not speed up the process. The best most humane way is via LR and /or adding a dead ammonia source to grow the bacteria required.

[rant]Basically there are no shortcuts that will lead to a healthy and sustainable system. Time and proper planning are the main roads to success. Shortcuts lead to a false sense of accomplishment and often failure.[/rant]

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but i saw on a website that mollies are a hardier species and can be used to cycle a new marine tank.
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but i saw on a website that mollies are a hardier species and can be used to cycle a new marine tank.
Unfortunately not everything your going to read will always be in the best interest of the animals. Anything you add to a tank that creates ammonia will begin the cycle, that goes for anything that rots as well.

The main difference being one is humane and the other is not. Fish no matter how hardy must endure ammonia (in some cases quite high) which is quite toxic, nitrite which is usually high no matter what and which can effectively suffocate the fish. Nitrite actually inhibits the hemaglobin in the fishs blood from absorbing O2 and carrying it through the blood stream.

Without going into a long rant, think of cycling intentionally with fish in the same manner as a human subjected to a room being filling up with car exhaust and no where to go. A toxic environment with no way out.

I am not suggesting you did so intentionally or knowingly though, just pointing out there is a better way

http://www.aquariumadvice.com/showqu...q=2&fldAuto=15

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